The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers 
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters
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[–] 201 points 2 months ago (83 children)

Hopefully this will benefit other countries indirectly, instead of designing one repairable phone and one not repairable, should be easier to just design one.

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  • [–] 152 points 2 months ago (42 children)

    "Hold my beer" - Nintendo, releasing an EU centric revision. Meanwhile Apple and Samsung are digging up every legal loophole to prevent the law applying to their devices.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Apple and Samsung be like: "It's not a mobile phone or a tablet, it's a phablet so it does not fall in to any category of the devices that need to be repairable."

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    The loophole in the directive is smaller phones. Smartphones go from 10.16 cm (4 inches) diagonal to 17. 78cm (7 inches) and everything bigger (up to 44.2 cm) is a tablet.

    Samsung and Apple's flagship smartphones are very close to be considered tablets but that wouldn't save them from the requirements.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    The past two phones I bought were not because they broke, but because they stopped being supported on apps that I need to use.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's also included in the directive. Manufactures will be required to provide OS updates for at least 5 years "from the date of end of placement on the market" (which means the date the brand shipped the last device of a model).

    They also have 4 months to release security updates and 6 months for functionality updates see ANNEX II for all device categories.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That is actually fairly reasonable. I use a 5 yr old Xiaomi which a has 8Gb (as much as an entry level Surface or MacBook. Fuck AI) an octacore CPU, great camera, ultra fast charge, great battery etc. But I realize most people change phones every 2-3 years regardless of how well their phone works, because of "shiny new thing"

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    So I saw that my car offered up all sorts of useful diagnostic information for self diagnosing stuff. Was very excited and went to look at it for a generic fault without having to get software to tell me what the fault is. I thought "it's stupid it has fully functional computer display yet tells me basically "contact a dealer, but it's safe to drive" instead of what the problem is. Then I find out that because I'm in the USA, the company keeps it to themselves...

    So if they see value in treating regions differently, they will absolutely go out of their way to screw over the regions that will let them.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Car manufacturers screwed over consumers the last 10-15 years big time! Cars used to be the big thing many could fix a lot on by themselves and were proud to do so. Then they basically just said incrementally to the DIY'ers "it's all computers now, not your cup of tea", purposely made cars less and less self repairable and got away with it! It's infuriating.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Do you seriously think they computerized cars to make them less repairable? That's some tin foil hat stuff there.

    They started computerizing cars to make them more efficient, reliable (ironically), safer, etc. The problem is that beyond OBDII there is no standard for diagnostics, and makers keep these proprietary.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    They didn't have to keep it proprietary, and I think in many "computer problems" the certified dealers will just replace 1 circuitboard by a new one, but it's a part which private customers are not able to order and replace themselves

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Okay, but the economics of doing that are different between software and hardware. It's much more expensive to have a full second hardware design compared to just turning a software feature off in certain markets.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Just like the USB-c on the iphone

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Even then, Apple maliciously complied. They put shit speed usb-c, (maybe 2.0?) on all but the highest most expensive model.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Tbf they also did that when they were on lightning.

    And they are not the only one to do that. I have a flagship android phone one step before the super flagship but It only got usb 2. It is really annoying to transfer media at such a low speed.

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