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New EU law requires devices to be repairable - Every phone, television or washing machine you buy in Europe must be easier to repair starting tomorrow. That’s when the European Right to Repair Act tak (www.nporadio1.nl)
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The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers 
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters
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[–] 39 points 2 months ago (23 children)

The past two phones I bought were not because they broke, but because they stopped being supported on apps that I need to use.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's also included in the directive. Manufactures will be required to provide OS updates for at least 5 years "from the date of end of placement on the market" (which means the date the brand shipped the last device of a model).

    They also have 4 months to release security updates and 6 months for functionality updates see ANNEX II for all device categories.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That is actually fairly reasonable. I use a 5 yr old Xiaomi which a has 8Gb (as much as an entry level Surface or MacBook. Fuck AI) an octacore CPU, great camera, ultra fast charge, great battery etc. But I realize most people change phones every 2-3 years regardless of how well their phone works, because of "shiny new thing"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Xiaomi 13T gang? 😁

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Let me guess, iPhone?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Androids

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Huh...I'm guessing banking apps? Those are the only ones that have ever given me problems on old Android devices

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Been starting to see more randomly picky apps. Based on vintage and rooted device.

    Uninstalled the FedEx app, since every time I tapped on a tracking number, it would divert to the app which would promptly shame me for having a rooted device and refuse to run.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Doubtful. iPhones have the longest support of any phones out there.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Source?

    As far as I know, nearly all flagship phones, Apple or otherwise, get about 7 years of update support (except Pixel phones with GrapheneOS which get 14 ignore; I remembered this incorrectly).

    The difference is, even my old phone running Android 8 (a 9yo OS) can still browse the web, run all apps, and perform fine as a phone. An even older phone running Android 4.4 can still run 3rd party apps. iPhones seem to stop working about a year after they stop receiving updates, and they don't support sideloading (also know as running the software you want to run on the device you own).

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    The oldest iPhone that can run the latest iOS is the 11 from 2019. Apple is still providing security fixes all the way back to iOS 15, which goes back to the 6s released in 2015. So, somewhere between 7 and 11 years for Apple depending on what you are counting as support. As a personal experience, my partners iPad from 2017 still runs fine, though it is stuck on iOS 16 and only gets security updates.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Are you sure about 14 years of support? I think Graphene basically supports things as long as Google does, due to reliance on their source code releases. Double that would be impressive.

    https://grapheneos.org/faq

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Your Android 8 phone absolutely can not run every app lol. That’s a straight up lie that even people here won’t believe.

    iPhones have the longest security update and os update plan out of any manufacturer.

    https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/9-phones-with-the-longest-software-support-samsung-iphone-pixel-and-more

    Also worth noting that up until about 3 years ago finding an Android phone that was supported for even 4 years was almost impossible. Apple have been doing 6-7 years of full OS version updates and 8+ years of security updates almost since the start.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Oh trust me, I'm no fan of Samsung, but I tend to value control of my devices over...whatever it is Apple does. I had an iPhone until I discovered replacing the home button myself artificially bricked the device due to DRM forcing customers to go to an Apple store for repairs. Never again

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Control over your devices is on the way out regardless of the major manufacturer.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Unfortunately, this is very true.

    For what it's worth, I still try to maintain as much control as possible by using OSes like Graphene or Linux. I also have just started refusing to pay for things I can't own. That includes gaming consoles, cloud services, smart home devices, Samsung/Apple phones, leased cars, etc. If Google keeps killing and locking down AOSP, it may soon include all Android phones too.

    I'm hoping we can get some regulations pushed through before that point.

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