The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers 
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters

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[–] 201 points 2 months ago (83 children)

Hopefully this will benefit other countries indirectly, instead of designing one repairable phone and one not repairable, should be easier to just design one.

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  • [–] 152 points 2 months ago (42 children)

    "Hold my beer" - Nintendo, releasing an EU centric revision. Meanwhile Apple and Samsung are digging up every legal loophole to prevent the law applying to their devices.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Apple and Samsung be like: "It's not a mobile phone or a tablet, it's a phablet so it does not fall in to any category of the devices that need to be repairable."

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    The past two phones I bought were not because they broke, but because they stopped being supported on apps that I need to use.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's also included in the directive. Manufactures will be required to provide OS updates for at least 5 years "from the date of end of placement on the market" (which means the date the brand shipped the last device of a model).

    They also have 4 months to release security updates and 6 months for functionality updates see ANNEX II for all device categories.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    So I saw that my car offered up all sorts of useful diagnostic information for self diagnosing stuff. Was very excited and went to look at it for a generic fault without having to get software to tell me what the fault is. I thought "it's stupid it has fully functional computer display yet tells me basically "contact a dealer, but it's safe to drive" instead of what the problem is. Then I find out that because I'm in the USA, the company keeps it to themselves...

    So if they see value in treating regions differently, they will absolutely go out of their way to screw over the regions that will let them.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Car manufacturers screwed over consumers the last 10-15 years big time! Cars used to be the big thing many could fix a lot on by themselves and were proud to do so. Then they basically just said incrementally to the DIY'ers "it's all computers now, not your cup of tea", purposely made cars less and less self repairable and got away with it! It's infuriating.

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    [–] 132 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    Interesting things that are not on the list:

    • Farming equipment
    • Motor and electric vehicles
    • Computers (including laptops)
    • Video game consoles
    • HVAC systems and equipment

    Not sure if smart TVs fall under "electronic displays", or if they just mean commercial displays when they say that.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago

    not yet ! we hope !

    John deer tractor lost a case that became famous in my rural area (and elsewhere). It now have to let repair shop acces the tools and allow repair on its tractors.

    I take the win ! And we continue to push forward in talks, petitions, actions and repairs (autorised or else) Support and/or use open source.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    Farming equipment is a particularly annoying one, that and construction vehicles, are becoming increasingly locked down by proprietary software and impossible to maintain yourself. You can't even employ mechanics outside the dealer network in some instances and it will be more so in the future.

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    [–] 82 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    They pass dystopian chat control with one hand and does this with the other.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    The EU is a complex organization with different power poles and a variety of different interests. Add to that members of parliament do not always understand everything they vote for. And yes: you get bad things, nonsensical rules, but also good things.

    Overall, I would say it's positive, but when it's bad it can be brutal.

    Edit: I forgot to mention lobbying! Brussels is full of lobbyists!

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    Why is bicycle on the list? A bicycle is the epitome of repairability.

    Edit: it got enshittified?

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    [–] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Heh, the dryer stopped working at home and my spouse was bracing to buy a new one. So nice to break out the multimeter, find the issue, and 10 dollar part later, good as new.

    Think of all the waste avoided by repairing a tiny part in a gigantic appliance.

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    [–] 41 points 2 months ago (20 children)

    Unfortunately there are some exemptions. Flexible / folding displays are not covered. Fitness trackers and watches are not covered.

    There is also a battery regulation coming in next year to require phone batteries to be replaceable with no tools but that has loop holes too - long life batteries aren't covered, IP67 rated phones aren't covered. So you can bet your boots those two reasons will be what makers use to bullshit their way out of it.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Having those rules is much better than not having them. Also, IP rating is not enough, batteries also need to have sufficient load cycles. So if it forces them to use only long life batteries that reduces the need for battery repkacements and is already something.

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    [–] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    This is a step in the right direction love it. Although I got a reality check recently when I bought a washing machine and had a chat with the guy selling them new and used. He said that from 201X onwards basically the manufacturers constructed the insides of them in a single piece which is 350€ and with that it’s not economical to fix them. So yea technically they are repairable. But I have little hope that this will actually change something for consumers or the environment.

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    [–] 40 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    Water kettle stopped working, has fucking temper proof triangle head screws so can't even open it without having to buy a special screwdriver bit. name and shame : kitchenaid

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    [–] 35 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is good.

    The RIGHT to repair does you no good if the thing itself is not DESIGNED to be repaired.

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    I'm noticing cars are not part of the list, despite being smartphones on wheels

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago

    For things like these I love Europe. For things like Chat Control I hate Europe

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago*

    There is no repair without firmware. All hardware needs to be documented and ship with source. It hasn't been enough to be able to buy physical parts since perhaps the 80s or 90s. Everything is controlled by software. Without that right to repair is a joke. Meanwhile the surveillance industry and their well greased govt supporters are trying to lock down software. Can't have it both ways.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago

    regulation works.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Thank you E.U. I hope you have a run of people buying and shipping products all over the world and it pressures everyone else to follow suit.

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    [–] 21 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Can't wait to see what loopholes they will implement such that I can avoid repairing my shit and pay full price for a new one anyway because the repair costs just as much as a new one. God forbid replacing a single bearing instead of the whole wash drum, I hope the EU protects me from that like before.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago*

    You can repair it, you just need a proprietary driver, a torque wrench, 5 hands, 18 fingers, and wait 5 months for the part to arrive.

    Or just take it to our shop where you can spend 250 bucks to fix your 260 dollar dryer.

    I'm excited for an international business to sell a different version of the item for the EU which is "repairable", and one for the US which is riveted and welded closed.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    This is excellent news, but I really wish this same logic will spill into the recent "stop killing video games" movement as well.

    That whole fight was really about consumer protection as well, not just about video games IMO.

    I want to be able to be easily repair and support products that are past their manufacture supported end of life. This goes for both physical products and digital products!

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They won't make it so we can install any OS we want on tablets or phones, nor make drivers published as free software, right?

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Good, now let's increase the list and also add vacuum cleaners to it! I thought that they already were but seemingly not :(

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    I have a super common type (in EU) of Philips water kettle. It's a reliable machine. Unfortunately the little filter "screen" for the pouring sprout is starting to break now, after many many years of use. I can't find a replacement. It's a super easy to manufacture part, must be a very common "breaking thing" on this widespread device... Nope.

    Philips HD4646 if anyone knows a source 🙈

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I like this for a lot of obvious reasons.

    I worry about corporate malicious compliance though where the cost of a replacement part costs as much as the unit or near it to make up for lost revenue from selling whole units.

    They could even get to the printer ink model where they sell the initial device for cheap or at a lost with planned obsolescence of parts that almost guarantee a replacement rate.

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