mindbleach comments on PSA Huggingface is scraping GitHub

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Genuinely surprised it's even opt-out.

These companies train on Disney DVDs. Permission is not a factor. Training is transformative use, as much for counting letter frequency as for building a chatbot that can sort of code.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

no, officer, you misunderstand! I'm not pirating this movie, I'm just training my intelligence on it! it is transformative use, see, I can now write you this summary!

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Quoting one sentence from a book is fair use even if you shoplifted that book.

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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I would say this is a gray area of law. It hasn't been tested yet. There are a few factors in determining "fair use". One of those factors is commercialization, which could nullify fair use. Another is the amount you're using.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago*

Commercial parody is commonplace fair use. If it surpasses the original... oh well.

The amount being used becomes negligible as the corpus grows. Filtering a billion webpages into one gigabyte means their average contribution is one byte. Play with the numbers all you like, it's gonna come out to less than a paragraph.

If we went full copyright maximalist, and criminally banned using anything but public-domain / BSD / CC0 works, the commercial impact would not be much different. The technology itself shifts the economics of text, images, video, and code.

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