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[–] 199 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Looks for my username. Sees my 8 open repositories in there. Sees my poorly coded Uni projects are also in there.

Oh lord my code is actively helping making AI worse.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Mission failed successfully!

    Glad to be part of the crew with shitty code in Github to taint them plagiarism machines!

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    [–] 69 points 2 months ago* (27 children)

    Also, all this reminds me of drama in the Skyrim and Minecraft modding scenes, when devs publish stuff under Apache or MIT or whatever.

    Then the devs find out they don’t like what others are doing with their code. Drama ensues.


    …That’s kinda the deal with permissive licenses. Or posting publicly, like here on Lemmy. People will do things you don’t like with your code or content.

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  • [–] 65 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Eh, I don’t think it’s hypocritical to contribute to a commons and then get mad when someone comes along and tries to use the commons to undermine the commons.

    Like yes, the commons is there to be used… but not to kill the commons.

    https://www.citationneeded.news/free-and-open-access-in-the-age-of-generative-ai/

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago

    Nah if you're a massive AI company and you scrape without contribution, you're a huge piece of shit.

    It's just stealing plain and simple like anything else.

    They're not a small user getting open source software, they're scraping what is already done to try and make you obsolete.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    There are permissive licenses, and then there are copyleft licenses. Permissive licenses go in the direction of "do whatever the fuck you want". Copyleft licenses are more like "use it for whatever the fuck you want but if you change it give it back to everyone else with the same conditions". The people who have projects with copyleft licenses are the ones who are (rightfully) pissed about their projects being used to train AI.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Huggingface isn’t violating copyleft licenses here, I don’t think. And research projects that use it, with citations and documentation, wouldn’t either.

    Now, if some business comes along and tries to make proprietary code derived from the dataset, that’s where things get hairy. But the people doing that are responsible for the potential violation, not Huggingface.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

    On the other hand, totally did not see this particular shit coming. I wonder if we'll see a rash of "permissive, except LLMs can fuck right off" licenses.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Permissive licences should be the ones to fuck off entirely. GPL or death

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    [–] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Bad News: My old GitHub repos are there.

    Good News: I wrote that shit when I was 12. The code runs, but it's not good and not inventive.

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    [–] 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Genuinely surprised it's even opt-out.

    These companies train on Disney DVDs. Permission is not a factor. Training is transformative use, as much for counting letter frequency as for building a chatbot that can sort of code.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    Well… I’d rather the dataset be public and there, with an ostensible centralized opt-out, instead of every AI startup frantically rescraping the same things their predecessors did.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 months ago

    True, I understand why this is better than all those companies scraping it individually (for both ability to opt out and site load), but the way they handled opt out is still quite silly.

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    [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    Woof. They really went for it on my GitHub

    Yes, there is code from 79 repositories in The Stack v3

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I don’t see a problem as long as they stick to AGPL when building a product out of it

    Edit: Oh they also scraped my proprietary code 🧐

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    [–] 22 points 2 months ago*

    meanwhile I'm just here scraping GitHub repos for API keys and credentials 🤷‍♂️

    for legal reasons I must insist this is a joke, and in Minecraft.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    A number of my repos are listed.

    But the weird part is that it also lists a repo I don't recognize. The repo does actually exist on my github account, but it's marked as "ignored", and the description says it was automatically exported from Google Code. The code seems to be a MacOS shareware file encryption tool called "BitClamp", published circa 2008.

    No idea how it got on my account.

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    …and now, suddenly, github being overrun by vibecoded garbage isn’t so bad

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Get off of Github if you think this is a problem 🤷 There are alternatives like Forgejo (Codeberg), Gitlab, and Radicle (decentralised).

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Time to leave malicious code for Claud in git hub projects.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I'm not much of a programmer, but why arern't more people just using GitLab instead of GitHub?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Why go from corporate to corporate platform? Codeberg exists.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Still learning git but apparently there's some "power features", and, aside from that, it's the same BS network effect that keeps everyone on all the abusive platforms.

    Discoverability, it's where all the other people already stashed their code, sunk cost, etc...

    Siiiigh...

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    If someone wants to scrap the shitty ass code I have on GitHub, have at it. Talk about poisoning AI

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)

    In theory, it's all supposed to be permissively licenced code and the opt out is more than other models give. I saw Starcoder as one of the more ethical models. I thought the underlying principals to be fair at least.

    I'm interested in this gut hostility to it regardless. Kind of shows how you can't present LLMs in a positive angle no matter what. They shouldn't be using anything GPL or similar.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    Kind of shows how you can't present LLMs harvesting peoples data without consent or even warning and making it difficult to impossible for people to avoid it in a positive angle no matter what.

    Fixed it for you.

    An LLM built from only consensually provided data would be perfectly fine, as long as it works without environmentally ruinous data centers.

    In fact, that was how EVERY LLM was to begin with, until regulatory capture and corporate impunity reached the current crescendo.

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    "our project"

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