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[–] 47 points 1 month ago (18 children)

At my old job, there was some back and forth about some feature detail. The product lady messaged me and said "do you have a few minutes to talk about the final solution?"

I was like, "uhh you mean the sorting filter on the projects page? Yes, so long as we don't call it the final solution"

I don't know if she knows that phrase already has a history

This lead me asking a bunch of coworkers if they knew. About half were familiar.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I can't imagine forgetting that phrase from school over 2 decades ago. I get people not knowing lots of the details, but missing that, work will set you free.. etc etc. That's really bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Keep in mind English might not be someone's first language. They might have learned the phrase in school in their language, or even the German original, but not whatever is the accepted English translation.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    With the current media landscape I believe it's malicious intent rather than stupidity.

    It's simliar to how an old artist's music being played on a pop station is a leading indicator that artist is going to put out a new album. The intended end users of the Nazi Germany phrases may not know/care what they're saying, but the people seeding it into the media are literally just following the playbook for what worked last time.

    My bingo card has a spot on it for seeing unironic back-to-back commericials for gold sellers (who didn't get the memo) and reminders that the US has nationalized all its gold (again).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Im a process chemist and we often actually form solutions at the end of a chemical process that are unfortunately deemed "final solutions". There's not really a way around it since it's the most technically accurate way to describe what we're dealing with

    Edit: and I always find it uncomfortable to say

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Come on now. It was reasonable for someone to say the final solution in your scenario. It is totally reasonable to call out these things especially when it is purposefully being used like the OP. However, your scenario sounds like you are making a situation about something it isn't at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I accept that she wasn't referencing the historical meaning on purpose. She likely wasn't a classic Nazi trying to dog whistle. However, not recognizing the phrase is concerning. Especially given the current rise of Nazi-compatible ideology in power.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children)

    If she didn't mean it that way, I don't see how it's concerning. A lot of people display swastikas with no intention of referring to Nazis. The words "final" and "solution" aren't owned by Nazi Germany into perpetuity.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Not sure if trolling, but: I feel like people show know relevant, recent, history.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Not knowing a specific phrase isn't exactly unheard of. And a person using it to mean something else isn't a Nazi.

    Not sure if you're trolling or just a fucking idiot.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I didn't say they were a Nazi. And I thought you might be trolling because " A lot of people display swastikas with no intention of referring to Nazis." sounds risible.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well yes, the swastika was used way before Nazi time and while they definitely sullied it, I am not sure denying others the use for a completely different meaning is the best way forward.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    I feel really uncomfortable when a black service worker calls me "boss".

    Idk why...I think there was a book that we listened to in like 7th grade that was narrated by LeVar Burton where there was a character that was, I think, a freed slave, and he was travelling with some young abolitionist white kid, and he'd always call the kid Boss, and it made the kid like really uncomfortable, and that must've rubbed off on me.

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    I was in a meeting planning a large corporate event. A chef was there discussing food options and how they were having trouble finding a kosher meal provider but they have a work around until they find a final solution. Me and one other person both looked up and made eye contact, but no one else reacted. I had to pull the chef aside and ask him not to use that phrase when speaking about kosher meals.

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