Ive been seeing a lot of reports on Ukranian drones targeting Civilians in Russia, Donestk, Crimea, LPR, and DPR. Is Russia targeting Civilians in Ukraine as well? I mostly hear about their missiles striking cities but I'm not sure if they actually have a drone network like Ukraine. Or if they are unapologetically targeting Civilians like Ukraine seems to be doing.

It's normal in war to expect civilian causalities but how frequent we see it occurring really feels like its pointless death for the sake of numbers. Like we know from tons of previous conflicts that striking the civilians just makes them more aggressive against the system that is striking them

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[–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Ukrainian and "pro-Ukrainian" media/social media also like to brag and publish articles/posts about how "patriotic" Ukrainians are manufacturing drones in their apartments. This is extremely bad because it potentially turns every apartment into a legitimate military target.

Do they receive military grade materials from the Ukrainian Army and are assembling them in their apartment? Did Ukraine lost any means to assembly them in some weapon manufactory? Idk much about this all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    The explosive material almost certainly. Other parts they fund through volunteer donations.

    The issue is that any large weapons factory or munition warehouse in Ukraine sooner or later gets obliterated by a Russian hypersonic missile. Which is why for years now Ukraine has been forced to adopt this decentralized, distributed system for assembling and storing many of their weapons.

    (BTW, I specifically use the word "assembling" here and not "manufacturing" because of course they do not manufacture the drone components themselves, and neither does Europe, despite what they will sometimes claim in the media; they all import them from Asia, mostly China unfortunately...)

    And this is not a secret, as i said, they like to brag about it in the media:

    Here is an NPR article: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/12/g-s1-59428/ukraine-drones-russia-war

    Here is Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2024/03/07/how-ukraine-is-building-a-drone-army-at-its-kitchen-tables/

    Here is UK news citing CNN: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1839141/ukraine-couple-drone-russia-war

    Here is Ukrainian media: https://en.ain.ua/2024/02/05/stories-of-ukrainians-who-assemble-kamikaze-drones/

    This one is particularly heinous where they brag about having children assemble them in schools: https://hromadske.ua/en/society/224639-every-high-school-student-assembles-a-drone-a-report-from-a-kyiv-school-that-teaches-robotics

    Ukrainian official saying more children should assemble drones at school: https://thepressunited.com/updates/kiev-urged-to-use-kids-to-make-drones-in-schools-to-evade-russian-strikes/

    Here is Ukraine's most fanatical pro-Maidan publication: https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/01/15/minister-urges-ukrainians-to-assemble-fpv-drone-for-army-at-home/

    Here is an article citing Spain's El Pais: https://en.ua2.news/1458-drone-workshops-ukraine.html

    Here more Ukrainians proudly boast about making drones in the same home their family lives in: https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2024/1204/ukraine-drones-war-russia-volunteer

    Here is them explaining their process in detail: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-we-assemble-fpv-drones-ukrainian-armed-forces-our-office-ssynf

    And those are just some of the English language articles. If you look in Russian or Ukrainian you will find way more: https://www.0512.com.ua/ru/news/3694630/nuzny-kak-vozduh-v-nikolaevskoj-oblasti-starseklassniki-sobiraut-drony-ctoby-pomoc-voennym-foto

    And speaking of using children, here is another Ukrainian publication proudly explaining how Ukraine plans to teach school children combat skills: https://www.volynnews.com/news/all/ukrayinskykh-shkoliariv-navchatymut-keruvaty-FPV-dronamy/

    All of this is indication of extreme desperation, late 1944 Nazi Germany Volkssturm levels, drafting children and old people because everyone else has run out.

    Also, they use the civilian postal service to ship drones and other weapons, which is why you see Russia destroy so many of those locations. This is also no secret and the Ukrainians and Western volunteers in Ukraine openly post pictures of themselves with these facilities bragging about weapons shipments.

    Just like they hide shipments of weapons in civilian trucks and ships, and use civilian cars to transport troops to the front. The fact that this also turns any civilian vehicle into a legitimate potential target for Russia is intentional on the part of Kiev, because collateral damage to civilians helps them present themselves as victims for propaganda in Western media.

    None of these are the actions of a regime that is winning or even in a stalemate as is sometimes claimed in the West.

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