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[–] 135 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (40 children)

Two more for the pile

Edit: ironically, it seems my media literacy could be called into question here too based on the mismatch between the tone of OP meme and the tone of the responses I posted. Context for anybody missing it below.

The punisher is a revenge fantasy carried out on corrupt policemen. The message was basically acab before acab was a thing people said. Policemen, who tend to have IQ that matches their best mile time in minutes, love to plaster his logo all over everything they own.

The bottom photo is Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine. Rather than summarize his story, I'll share his response when a prominent conservative politician tweeted about RatM being their favorite band. "I wonder what [Paul] Ryan's favorite Rage song is? Is it the one where we condemn the genocide of Native Americans? The one lambasting American imperialism? Our cover of "Fuck the Police"? Or is it the one where we call on the people to seize the means of production? So many excellent choices to jam out to at Young Republican meetings!"

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago (6 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Morello was in a Voyager episode?!?!? I don't even really like RATM, but holy fuckin BASED

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    ‘Good Shepherd’ S06E20, it’s just a cameo appearance though.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Good lookin out! Voyager is one of the few Trek shows I haven't seen every episode of, I mean I've seen most of Voyager, so I might've seen that one. It just makes sense, Starfleet is the embodiment of leftist socialist idealism, I do love it so

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    What are you on about? Starfleet is a (at least quasi)military organization with a obvious hierarchical order. The captain tells you to jump? You say how high. There's a lot of discussions, but in the end she/he decides the fate of all aboard.

    Now, I love old Trek (up until and including Voyager) - it has a lot of merits - but it's far from how I'd want society to be optimally.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Starfleet is a (at least quasi)military organization with a obvious hierarchical order.

    moth can't think of any examples of socialist nations with a rigid military hierarchy in the entire human history. no, none at all. can you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    moth tries to troll. Or moth has very different understanding of "leftist socialist idealism". But what do I know, very little.

    RATM at least described themselves as anarchist/socialist if I remember correctly.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago

    I know the point of Tom Morello being included is because RATM is completely misunderstood by conservatives, but it makes me giggle because he did a song for Final Fantasy XIV because a friend he played D&D with also knew a guy involved and it just happened.

    But progressives can have hobbies. It's fine. Lol

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (27 children)

    Who's the dude in the bottom picture?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (25 children)

    What’s Tom doing in that list? From everything I’ve heard about him he seems like a great guy

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    I wonder if the message is about Rage Against the Machine and how conservatives always misunderstand the lyrics because they have zero media literacy.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    When did rage against the machine go woke?

    Edit: Damn. It's funny how much you all suck.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Do you ever consider why being aware of and against horrible things happening to innocent people, aware of the people in charge scamming and laughing at you while you scrabble around in the dirt blaming other people being scammed just like you is considered an insult by your kind?

    Do you just enjoy the feeling of constantly being made a fool? Is that why you think 'woke' is such an insult? Some kind of weird kink about being robbed and abused?

    Well fuck me I fell for it. It's real hard to tell these days when someone's being facetious or not on the internet :(

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    It turns out Lemmy is full of humorless morons.

    Rage against the machine going woke is a very common joke on the internet. XD

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    People get used to assuming other people are dumber than them, especially online. So they see an obvious joke and instead if thinking "well obviously they didn't mean the thing they are pointing out, so they are pointing it out to mock that perspective", they just accept it face value, and then when called out on it go "poe's law" or argue that the fact that they didn't understand says a lot about society instead of doing any introspection.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    It's a "misunderstood the message" in the opposite direction. He wrote angry songs about how the establishment is evil, and pro-establishment people thought they were angry songs about how people trying to change the establishment were evil.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Given there lyrics that's less of a misunderstanding and more illiteracy. The lyrics themselves were pretty damn clear.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I remember a classmate of mine thought the "some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses" lyric was saying "Satanists are infiltrating our pristine and flawless police force!" And of course there's the quintessential "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" that all republicans thought meant "Fuck you, I won't do the bare minimum to care about others!"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sure, but in the former case that takes some extreme cognitive dissonance. Rage wasn't ever really hiding things in their lyrics.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Oh, they were certainly enraged. Those damn satanists! But yeah, nobody I knew actually knew what the lyrics were - we all just mumbled along incoherently until we yelled out the few parts that everyone knew, so none of us were actually certain that the conservatives were totally misinterpreting what the song was saying.

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  • Oh, lol, I get it. I was the kid that read through the lyrics books while playing the albums. Hell, I did some English assignments in school disecting their lyrics. Every time my conclusion was the translation was fairly literal. XD

    I never lost points for that part though, because I think the teachers found the exercise to be creative enough and applied to something that I was interested in.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Right wingers are too dumb to have media literacy and tend to love RATM. I do agree just a photo of him was probably the most confusing way to convey that message though.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Damn, “Arm the homeless” is a hell of a take.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah. The leftist in me thinks it goes kinda hard, but the volunteer social worker in me has spent a lot of time and effort making absolutely sure the homeless folk I've interacted with were not armed. I thought it said "arm the hopeless" when I found the picture

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Yeah, it hits hard when Lucy Paraons says it because she was widowed for her husband's opposition to the dictatorship of capital. When I was hungry and sleeping in my car I needed secure housing where I could do my homework and consistent access to food, not a gun. And plenty of homeless people would just hurt themselves or each other if armed.

    Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or a knife, and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot the owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination.

    • Lucy Parsons
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