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Too many people I know are like this (europe.pub)
submitted 1 week ago by to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca
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[–] 11 points 1 week ago* (7 children)

I don't lose my shit about it; I just point out the catch 22:

Creators don't want to leave their established bases, and viewers are gonna go where the creators are.

Get some big creators to move somewhere, anywhere, else and their fans will follow and likely cause a domino effect with other creators. Yelling at the viewers ain't gonna help a damn thing. There's basically no content elsewhere. We need to yell at the creators.

Boycotting YouTube outright will not hurt Google nearly as much as it would hurt the creators you are trying to help out.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    A lot of the documentary YouTubers created Nebula and run stuff there and on YouTube.

    Nobody (statistically speaking) is moving to Nebula.

    People are just too damned lazy.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    People are just too damned lazy.

    Nebula is small, it still only has a tiny fraction of the YouTube library, and you have to pay to access it up front.

    Also, near non-existent marketing budget. People can't be expected to magically inuit the existence of an alternative platform. At some point, you need to advertise your existence and get your content creators to do the same.

    The only creator I've ever heard mention Nebula even once was Abigail Thorn. And even she only talked about it during a couple of projects from years back.

    Everyone who is anyone in the indie space just goes with Patreon instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

    If people left YouTube, the creators leave YouTube. That’s how it works. This cyclical Stockholm Syndrome only benefits YouTube.

    And, it’s not about hurting them. It’s about not support them. When people learn this, meaningful things happen.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (3 children)

    If people left YouTube, the creators leave YouTube.

    I barely use YouTube at all anymore. But I'm also shelling out north of $50/mo on various artists on Patreon.

    I don't really expect other people to follow suit, if they don't have that kind of disposable income.

    Incidentally, I also have a subscription to Amazon Prime and HBO Max. The first, because Amazon is functionally the USPS at this point. The second, because I get it free through my ISP.

    I'm not going to cancel either one of them, any more than I'm going to give up my car to protest the fossil fuel industry.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Good on ya for supporting content creators, I’ve done this a few times myself a while back (won’t do it anymore), however- nothing will ever change so long as people keep showing YouTube that they’re okay with things as they are by helping bump up their numbers.

    Selective activism and cherry-picking isn’t going to move the needle. Strength of conviction, and an adherence to standards will.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    nothing will ever change so long as people keep showing YouTube that they’re okay with things

    The people "using" YouTube in the economic sense aren't the viewers, they're the advertisers.

    Selective activism and cherry-picking isn’t going to move the needle.

    Neither is stomping your foot and being mad at the anonymous video consumer or ad firm.

    Might as well get angry about people watching the Super Bowl or the next big Marvel Movie.

    If you want to advocate for an actual alternative thing, go for it. But just arguing in the negative is hollow, especially when you're arguing with a statistical person rather than an actual audience.

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