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You cook the food and have a phone in your pocket. Why oh why are the pictures AI? (europe.pub)
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[–] 25 points 4 days ago (32 children)

I would bet the restaurant isn't responsible for the AI images. More likely the restaurant didn't upload images and the app "helpfully" generated an image for them. The owners of the restaurant probably either have no idea that this happened or have bigger things to worry about.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago

    Lieferando just rolled out that feature and basically every restaurant in our area is now flodded with these AI pictures. I’m not sure if they know if and how it can be deactivated.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Sometimes the restaurant didn't even put the item on their menu. The website decided to "fill in" what was "missing" from the menu. It's how some restaurants discover all sorts of things they didn't know they sold. Sometimes from a service they never even signed up for!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Yep. And sometimes it's particularly costly for them, where the service charges them more than their margin for the delivery fee. This stuff can actually lose them money. Always order from the restaurant directly when you can.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (28 children)

    If they don’t know, they’re a bad manager.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago (16 children)

    Not necessarily. Lieferando is a terrible dogshit platform. I would not be surprised if that's a lieferando "feature" they rolled out without consent.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 days ago (15 children)

    And you don’t think the owner has a responsibly to check the work of anyone advertising using their products?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Plenty of places don’t even want these third parties doing this but they have no recourse.

    Like even DoorDash in the US. They have a separate credit card for drivers to buy from places that refuse DoorDash. So the drivers just play middleman and order as theirselves, use the DoorDash card, and then make the delivery. The restaurant can’t do anything about it.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    You are not obligated to cater to door dash as a buisness owner.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    You do not have a choice as a business owner. If you offer any kind of take out at all, they will just list your stuff with or without your consent, and the drivers will just order it as themselves like any other customer. You don’t know until the actual customer calls with a complaint.

    Hell, they will sometimes list it even if you don’t and then you have to deal with bad reviews when DoorDash just cancels an order on the customer when the driver gets told they don’t do take out.

    These third parties do not give a shit. They will do it even if you as the business explicitly say to not do it. And they’ll keep doing it until they get seriously punished for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Tech service companies don't give a shit about your responsibility or your consent. They just take what they want, add extra fees, pocket the difference, make themselves indispensable whether you liked it or not, and pretend you asked them to be the middleman when they threaten to blacklist you and take away all your business. This is not a consensual business relationship, they are parasites devouring customers and small businesses alike.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Bullshit. Someone can’t just set up a service using your products without your say.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago

    Why do you say that? They're saying what they'll have delivered to you.

    Anyway,you can just Google it.

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/food-drink/anti-doordash-restaurants-phoenix-fnb-carlys-bistro-hana-japanese-eatery-11537214/

    That was one of the first results.

    [DoorDash spokesperson] McCormack says that DoorDash has recently stopped listing businesses without permission and offered an official DoorDash statement. “While the majority of the merchants on our platform have partnerships with us, we will occasionally offer to act as a courier service for customers to restaurants in their neighborhood,” the statement reads. “For those not interested in being on DoorDash for any reason, we remove them from the platform upon their request.”

    I honestly thought that it was common knowledge that they did that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    How often should they be checking the listing they put up hasn't been changed without their knowledge in a way that they were never told to expect?

    When was the last time you checked that the numbers on your driver's license hadn't changed? Or are you one of those irresponsible people who doesn't check their important documents for spontaneous manifestation of clerical errors?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    The owner might not even have a say in this matter. They can't even adjust the menu without contacting lieferando.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    They can sue.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

    Ah yes. The 50-year-old, likely immigrant, small business owner of the local chip shop, who basically wakes up in the morning, spends four hours fighting with suppliers and dealing with payroll, goes in to work at noon and stays until midnight because half her staff called off, and is constantly about £5 away from going out of business, she's a bad manager. Her nephew offered to set up Doordash for her, but then he went off to university last year, and then a few months ago she added a Large size of the Cheesy Chips and Cheesy Chips with Curry Sauce, but she couldn't figure out how to upload the image and didn't know that the app would just make one for her, but it's her fault that the images are AI. She sees ads everywhere that say that AI is amazing and perfect and spends negative minutes per week on Lemmy and the news and the internet in general so she doesn't know all of the problems with AI, so when someone points out that there are AI images on her menu and she says "huh, neat," that's her problem.

    Being a scold against AI use is one thing when it's a software engineer or graphic designer who should know better, and it's totally fair for tech bros who do know better, but for complete normies this is a ludicrous complaint. I'm so frustrated by this inane binary purity test. You want to make things better? Don't scold or say "bad manager," educate people. The problem is Sam Altman of OpenAI, not Ashok Kumari of the London East Side Chip Castle.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    If you’re not paring attention to ads ads sent out in your businesses name. You’re a bad manager. Full stop.

    And no fake bullshit whatabout story is going to change that.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    lol, this isn't an ad. This is a page on their menu clearly several scrolls deep on an online ordering site they don't control. Regardless of who you are, this is hard to find unless you're looking for it. And when you add on top that the owner of every single local restaurant I've ever met has been some version of overworked by everything that directly affects their ability to pay rent, calling them a bad manager for not caring about something that doesn't is absolutely insane.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (7 children)

    Okaybuddy.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    Translation: "You're right but I don't have a logical rebuttal so I'm going to pretend to be dismissive in hopes that it comes across as me winning."

    You're just as unbearable as the AI bros who caused this whole mess. "All AI misuse is the fault of the person whose name appears closest to it! Certainly such a narrow view will never come back to bite me!" Get off your soapbox and actually try to help instead of screaming about people who don't even know that what they're doing is wrong.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Translation, I don’t want to read your whiny wall of text responses. Defend AI as you will, but don’t make up bullshit exception-to-the-rule stories because you think it’ll make a point.

    It doesn’t

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    If you actually read what you were criticizing, you'd know that I wasn't defending AI usage. It's objectively one of the most awful part of modern society, third only to, like, fossil fuels and fascism. I am absolutely not defending AI, and you sound foolish suggesting that I was. The fact that there are AI images of food on this menu is objectively and incontrovertibly a bad thing. I'm saying that you're targeting the wrong person for its use.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago

    Naah, you’re just hand-waving away the responsibility of its use on some made up story about how the owner was unaware it was even a thing.

    Not at all a devil’s advocation!

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I hate slop and reading you I understand why many don't join the cause.

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