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[–] 19 points 1 day ago* (15 children)

The USA is just as bloody as its parent, the UK, and they're both as bad as other nations with an Imperial past. I don't see any one as "worse" than the others.

I don't know all of world history, there's always more to learn, but every empire I've researched devolves into this at some point.

But, even small countries like Belgium manage to wreak havoc.

This is why government needs to be limited, in my opinion. Governments are killing machines, and the bigger they get, the easier it is. Just like people, governments require rules to limit them or its madness. I think the USA, Russia, and China all have the same problem, they're too big for their own good.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    The USA is just as bloody as its parent, the UK, and they’re both as bad as other nations with an Imperial past.

    Or, you know, damn near every single empire or powerful ruler throughout all of human history. The Greek golden age was only possible thanks to slaves working the fields, Rome was similar in this regard.

    Eastern nations weren't any better, read up on ancient Chinese culture and all the fucked up shit they did.

    Same goes for India, hell they're still trying to end child marriage but still represent like 20-25% of all child marriages in the world.

    People love to dog on America, and I'll be happy to point out all the historical examples, but the truth is this is more a symptom of the human condition and less about a nation. Look at the other countries on earth and you'll find plenty of evidence that evil isn't isolated to one nation, people, culture or time period.

    It's universally a human thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    At least some of them have largely left it in the past

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    But only after massive changes that usually but not always required massive amount of wars and/or societal collapse. A prime example is France wherein the Ancien Regime was only truly ended by the double tapping that was the French revolution and Napoleonic era, hell even the fucking Russian empire was more open to change than the Kingdom of France.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    UK managed to buy every slaves freedom before other countries thought ending slavery was cool

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    That's why I said "as other nations with an Imperial past", which would include China, India, Rome, Aztecs, and so on.

    My ancestors were Aztec and Spaniard, and we're the best at fucked up shit, just admit it. None of you can match

    (this is not a joke, for real)

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    No, the USA is the most destructive nation yet on this planet. No one even comes close even from ancient history (think Rome or Mongols). If you don't know this already you are probably just ignorant or in denial.

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