The USA is just as bloody as its parent, the UK, and they’re both as bad as other nations with an Imperial past.

Or, you know, damn near every single empire or powerful ruler throughout all of human history. The Greek golden age was only possible thanks to slaves working the fields, Rome was similar in this regard.

Eastern nations weren't any better, read up on ancient Chinese culture and all the fucked up shit they did.

Same goes for India, hell they're still trying to end child marriage but still represent like 20-25% of all child marriages in the world.

People love to dog on America, and I'll be happy to point out all the historical examples, but the truth is this is more a symptom of the human condition and less about a nation. Look at the other countries on earth and you'll find plenty of evidence that evil isn't isolated to one nation, people, culture or time period.

It's universally a human thing.

What all these tweet-historians ignore is that the wickedness they're criticizing is not unique to the USA, or even the Western world. Its also not a purely Imperialistic trait as it existed long before Roman Imperialism and it exists in the Eastern world as well.

China, India, the middle east... they all have histories filled with cruelty and evil acts that rival anything the USA has. In some ways, like when that Chinese army was trapped and had no food so the emperor offered his concubines as food and the soldiers gleefully obliged, are horrors American history lacks.

Remember; cruelty is a human trait, not an American one (or one isolated to one nation, people, culture or time period.)

Cuba (Spanish Empire) and Palestine (Ottoman Empire and more) also have a horrific history.

Imperialism bad, except when from an approved country.

You could say it's a literal red flag indicating the post came from inside a tank.

The irony is that when some Americans look at that same flag today, they see it as a symbol of the very kind of powerful, oppressive authority that the American Revolution was fought against.

And, unfortunately, a lot of people around the world look at it that way too.

The English crown was limiting their ability to oppress others you mean.

It was a noble as the Confederacy, to say, not at all.

For Canada, even though everyone was against it, the BNA act allowed us to throw out old treaties and give us terms more appealing to the ruling class.

At one point, the American people fought for their freedom from what they considered an oppressive and tyrannical authority: the English Crown.

Some did. Some were merely opportunists who didn't want the government getting in their way. Most of the US founding fathers were smugglers and land speculators. They didn't like that the US had ended the French and Indian war by promising that in exchange for peace, their colony would stop expanding westwards. That pissed off the founders who had bought land to the west and wanted a return on their investments.

Other American people were just fine with the arrangement with the crown. They didn't want a brand new government, they thought things were fine as they were. These people were either killed or driven off their land by the rebels who wanted a new government, and were forced to head to England or up into Canada.

Just look at the other places that didn't consider the British monarch to be an oppressive tyrant: Canada, Australia, NZ, etc. Did they suffer under the grinding boot of the king and lead miserable lives as a result? Were they forced to hand all their wealth over to England? Hardly. Within a few decades the British gave their local governments more power. Now they all merely have the king as a figurehead and are fully controlled by the people.

Meanwhile, the rebel colonists in the US went only a couple of decades before descending into a civil war. Plus, there's the war of 1812 which, in large part, was due to these people who famously hated tyrants and oppression ignoring treaties and killing off natives so that they could expand westward.

It seems to me that if you look past all the propaganda that is part of the US school system, the British king being a "tyrant" was more of a convenient excuse rather than the actual legitimate reason for the rebellion.

The flag doesn't offend me. The dickless chuds who wave it around 24/7 and have to wear it on at least 1 article of clothing at every moment in time claiming that what equates to less than a mild inconvenience or otherwise does NOT impact their lives at all is a fundamental infringement upon their personal freedoms while blindly supporting the an authoritative govt stripping away freedoms from. 25% of the country...

...that's what does

The ones waving the flag the hardest.

As a flag it's not very appealing tbh, too many small details as well.

My favorite is Chinese history where they go:

"Ling Long incident: no one recalls how it began or what happened,150 million dead, half of china destroyed. Famine for 10 years."

And it's just a minor footnote written down by maybe one court scribe.

You can tell you won the argument when the other person starts shouting over you, starts attacking your intelligence or character and storms out.

"Its in the bible" "Go read a dictionary" "The Quran literally says..." "Yeah but the comics say..." "Yeah but in the manga..."

Youre absolutely correct, these people have no idea what theyre talking about.

I love doing that. When someone tells me I'm wrong and I need to do some research and then I come back with peer reviewed research papers confirming my side.

Yes, I'm that level of petty about our tiny disagreement.

Because people who try to shut arguments down with this project that they can't imagine a scenario where they would actually read a book. It's the same energy as those that invoke the Bible, i.e. never read it themselves, assume it says what their feelies feel

Pretty much grabbed a list of "shit you shouldn't do to other people" and treated it as a TODO list.

Most other rich and powerful countries have done/are doing all those same things too. It's absolutely right to identify and fight against those abuses, but America is certainly not alone in acting like a psychopath, some could argue that it's not even the worst historically (though they're pretty close to the top of the pile right now)

To be fair, current China hasn't existed as much time to accrue the same amount of crimes yet, even if they are certainly trying.

Black Wall Street (and any of the destruction of predominantly black neighborhoods being torn down/flooded/etc.), Wounded Knee, Trail of Tears, internment camps

The list is indeed far longer than we can count, and that’s just domestic :’)