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[–] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

Ik this won't be a popular take because, as evidenced by this very comment section even, critical thinking isn't popular, but this is sexual harassment. Sending people porn non-consentually is sexual harassment. Yes, even when the person you're sexually harassing a piece of shit themselves, is that seriously a hard concept to grasp?? This dude is a piece of shit too if he thinks it's okay to send someone porn without consent.

EDIT: Harassment not assault.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 days ago* (16 children)

    Did you read the linked article?

    If so, could you be so kind as to speak to why you disagree with its unusually thorough and detailed legal analysis of the matter at hand?

    The Shrek image may have been crude or vulgar. But in context, there is no serious argument Byrnes sent it to arouse anyone’s sexual interest, let alone that it satisfies the Miller test. Byrnes sent it to another adult, reportedly accompanied by political commentary describing Cirino as “Young Mussolini.” That’s protected political mockery, not obscenity.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Look, I didn't flash my dong to everyone in the train to arouse anyone's sexual interest so there's no serious argument it was obscene

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  • [+] -13 points 2 days ago (8 children)
  • [–] 13 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Dicks are irrelevant. If you can genuinely look at the picture in that article and call it "porn" you're even weirder than the fascist piece of shit it was sent to mock.

    It damn sure wouldn't meet any legal definition.

    For someone who started off their diatribe by accusing everyone else of lacking critical thinking skills, you damn sure have t bothered to address any of the counterpoints or analysis anyone else has brought up. It's almost like you lack critical thinking skills and are just reacting to vibes.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 days ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    spreading rape apologia whether you know it or not.

    Kinda rich coming from someone whose definition of sexual assault is so broad (and thereby so cheapened) that it includes sending cartoon dicks to politicians.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I wonder how this person would qualify me touching my junk at the urinal. Since it involves touching an exposed penis, I suppose they would classify urinal usage as "public masturbation" and "sexual harassment" if anyone else is in the bathroom.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Ha! People who can't tell morals from ethics will argue with lawyers and claim the lawyers are fake, all day. No one knows more than a YouTube grad!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Wym?

    Morally, I’m neutral about the act of sending the photo. It’s crass but was sent to a GOP politician, so big shrug.

    Ethically, I think it violates the general principle of “don’t be a dick”, but see it as a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things.

    Semantically, I don’t think it’s sexual (*in the sense of anyone getting their rocks off) in any way, shape, or form, nor credibly assault. I don’t think the photo as shown in the article is remotely distressing to anyone imaginable except a deeply-repressed GOP closet case.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    No, this is constitutionally protected political speech, as any court in the country will find when this winds up in front of them.

    Sending people porn non-consentually is sexual harassment.

    Questionable, but even granting that, public figures like politicians are a legally distinct kind of people who have to meet a much higher bar to claim communication is harassment, and this is a huge nothingburger. Larry Flynt is laughing from his grave.

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  • These politicians have no idear what power mankind has at our fingertips. The ability to teleotransplace pornography into the enemy's mind has been mastered by myself, as I am a top-secret American unit of protocol of the psychic variety, I stare at goats n shit, y'know? I don't kill them, I just make them ejaculate. It's kinder, I think. More difficult, too. But I surpassed Jedi and now I need to assemble a tea of ace roginators who can handle the role of agency to be as one is an agent as I are. But I can beam tits into Chinese terrorists at a moments notice. We are in WWIII right now. Just follow me and we gun get outta this aight, aight?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago

    Generally, harassment is a course of conduct over a period of time, not a one-off. The bar for a one-off encounter being harassment of any kind is high, with good reason.

    That reason, to me, is that any reasonable person should be robust enough that all but the most serious, malicious communication should be something they can shrug off without much ill effect if it's a single isolated message. Getting a picture of a wanking cartoon character and a disparaging message isn't going to be pleasant for most people, sure, but if that's it?

    The logic behind punishment for sexual harassment is not - or should not - be any different from the logic behind punishment for non-sexual harassment; it should be proportional to the harm caused, and it should take the same standard of a "person of reasonable firmness" or whatever the legalese is.

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