I see the inverse of this, with native speakers of languages that use ABC (alphabet) to learn a language that’s logographic such as Japanese & Mandarin (since both have 漢字) as a single character is a word (difficult concept for them to grasp at first). However, even if let’s say a Mandarin speaker with zero exposure to English leans ABC for the first time, would the grammar be hard even if they’ve managed to master the alphabet?

There are sounds that don’t exist in both JP & ZH like words that start or end with “TH” (i.e. Thorough, Moth) as they don’t have that in their phonology. Don’t even mention the misleading pronunciations of certain words in ENG based on spelling that stump them like “Colonel” (大佐・上校) since most speakers of ENG say that as “Kernel”. Even if “alphabet” based languages are easy, the grammar can be hard for a non-native to learn.

As in, what would it be like for a Japanese & Mandarin speaker learning a Euro language (all alphabetical based) from 漢字 > ABC or Cyrillic as it’s alien to their own plus huge differences in vocab with zero similarity (like this: “Salida” from ES is equivalent to 出口 in JP & ZH) including common things most Euro languages have: gender cases (no such thing on JP & ZH), definite and indefinite articles for example to list a few.

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[–] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why not like you potatoes?!

Actually... that's a really good question. 🤔

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago

    "Like you potatoes?" is how English used to work, before "do" started being used sometime in Middle English. It's still preserved in things like the nursery rhyme "Baa baa black sheep, have you any wool?", etc.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The answer is: English has a Germanic grammar, not a Latin grammar.

    This can be confusing since we have so much Latin syntax layered on top of that.

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