A Boring Dystopia

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, Bernie would have been bad for business for corpo dems, but the real reason inner party members picked HRC was to get her either up or out, then everyone in the Democratic party moves up one level.

Whether HRC won or lost, everyone below her in the pyramid would win.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (8 children)

He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he's against.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He's a hater, not a leader.

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[–] dehyzer@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

At first glance I thought "he" was referring to Bernie and my brain started to melt.

On second read, I think you're talking about Newsom. I hope you're taking about Newsom.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Sadly Bernie's brain has also started to melt. I'm a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago

Quaint to think he was "too old" back in 2016, though.

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[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 5 points 1 day ago

He's 20 years past his prime sadly.

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

He is simply too old. Even if he is the best example of someone who wants to bring people together, after a certain age you can't really understand what the young people are about.

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[–] Kwiila@slrpnk.net 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

Soft disagree. A very old man can "get it" without being "Hey fellow youths! 76 skippity toilet bees knees." But the efforts needed to connect are harder as they get older (like everything else), and Senate is so old, insular, and entrenched its definitely not the place to understand up-to-date issues beyond being spoonfed talking points by an orchestrating team.

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 point 18 hours ago*

Yeah, i was more talking in general terms of old people. Nowadays we also have the added complexity of how fast the world changes. Bernie was born in 1941. He went from computers being practically nonexistent in public life to our modern times, and most of that change was in the last 3 decades - he already was over 50 when windows 3.1 launched in '92.

Not many people that age have the mental acuity left to keep up at all.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016.

In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump's ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just people with bad policy ideas and not people intent on destroying democracy.

Only since then have people really started coming around to social democracy, democratic socialism, and other left-wing ideas. Over time, people have begun to realise, Bernie was right.

It really is too bad that Bernie is so old. He deserves a good retirement, but given the current political climate, he's going to keep fighting for the working class until the bitter end.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

they were blinded by culture war issues, thats why.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Traditionally, when times are good economically are when people find time to advance social policies. That's why the Civil Rights movement found success in the 1960s. I'm sure had King marched across the South in 1929, the voters and political class would have had no appetite for it. Democrats through the economy was fixed forever once Obama was elected, but they were evidently wrong.

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[–] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who is DWC?

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[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 child)

I think they mean Debbie wasserman-schultz ?

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago*

The C should have been an S.
Upvote (for everyone), and i'll fix that

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[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -13 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

Bernie wasn’t the candidate because got beat, resoundingly at the ballot box across the entire primary.

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

If you believe that, I've got a nice giant golden bridge to sell you.

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[+] techmaster7d@lemmy.world -46 points 1 day ago (9 children)

LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.