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What’s your opinion on separation of church and state? (lemmy.ml)
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Title is pretty explicit, what do you think about separating church (or religion as a whole) from the state?

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[–] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (6 children)

That's a good way to alienate 90% of your audience during a revolution.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (5 children)

    Alas it's true, but the post wasn't asking only about revolutionary praxis.

    The World would be better without religion.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Yeah but i feel like repression wouldn’t work, we should just keep educating people and generation by generation faith will slowly stop being a thing

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You don't need feelings. You have evidence. The Bolsheviks thought they should abolish religion to free the masses. It was an error and did not properly match reality. Religious repression as a blanket policy had to get walked back in the first ever communist experiment. We learn from history.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago

    And then the cultural revolution made the same mistake in China.

    We've tried, multiple times, to forcibly excise religion and spirituality from the human condition and it never ends well.

    Now we've got multiple AES states discovering and demonstrating that a robust education system does most of the work of curbing the harm that religion can do. An educated populace naturally comes to the consensus that religion and spirituality should not be involved in the mechanisms of state, even when the majority individually still practice some form of spiritual or superstitious belief.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    from what i have observed, the path to curtail the influence of religion seems to be:

    1. lessen or remove hardships, people tend to turn to religion when they believe no one else can help them
    2. education, to lessen the more bigoted and reactionary currents
    3. enforcing speech laws on the clergy to stop them being a privileged class

    religion and spirituality itself isn't really a problem, it's the influence of it that is the issue

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