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So the big argument seems to be that the nebulously defined here "working class", or rather people who explicitly consider themselves such, don't want things that the GOP has been demonizing for decades?
This is just an argument for dems to be more right to appeal to Republican voters. One of the citations is a link to an essay written by the senior editor of the American conservative.
What a worthless article.
Who is it you think Democrats are taking money from to ignore our material needs?
You mean those same billionaires who fund the democrats?
I think they do understand. They just are unwilling to acknowledge it because then they would be expected to change, which would upset the corpos and billionaires.
This is willful ignorance
What a strange way to say everyone, politicians have lost touch with people due to the constant infighting and across the aisle bullshit along with the temptation of easy money and no one can take control of the monsters they created.
"For every working class democrat we lose, we'll get 2 or 3 moderate republicans in the suburbs" -Chuck Schumer, 2016
No leader.
Sure there is. He just happens to be pleasing the Epstein class enough that the centrists don't have to do anything to sabatage the party.
What we need is a leader with a strong progressive message.
I would add that we keep producing leaders with our values, but then they get shot down by the super rich people who are actually in charge. Which then results in no leader. :/
We just had governor elections in California and not one candidate was picked by the democrats to lead the charge. They don't care
What an absurd, right-wing article. The author clearly doesn't understand it either.
But even where working-class voters nominally agree with a Democratic policy goal, they don’t trust the institution being asked to deliver it – a distrust decades in the making.
This undermines the entire thesis that the Democrats "moved too far left" and that's what alienated the working class. How can it possibly be the case that that's the problem, if the Democrats are distrusted even when they align on policy?
The idea that Democrats are too focused on class, or have been historically, is just ridiculous, and relies on cherry-picking to an absurd degree. A handful of Democrats have recently begun talking about class, which is highly controversial within the party and goes against the party establishment. The article even goes so far as to cherry-pick Graham Platner, who hasn't even been elected! How is it possible that this recent trend in rhetoric could be responsible for "a distrust decades in the making?"
Meanwhile, the author's approach of moving right to appeal to this perceived silent majority has been the accepted, conventional wisdom during the very decades that the distrust was made! If this approach was actually effective, then where are the results to show for it?
Nope! Most all everyone just reacts to headlines and doesn’t even click through.
I guess I’m just a coastal elite, but I didn’t find the argument that Dems have tacked left and the electorate has stayed the same particularly compelling. The part about the working class identity was annoying — there’s so many people who want to think of themselves as some kind of merchant or artisan class that I don’t think really exists, and they would be much better off if they realized that if you live off the income you get from your work, you’re working class. Overall, I didn’t find the analysis persuasive.
Everybody who says the democrats - who are right wing by international standards - are too left are just lying.
I agree. The author presents a thesis that Democrats have tracked left, and then presents two issues where they have (abortion, job guarantees), one issue where they have returned to where they were in 1990 and the working class has tracked right (healthcare), and then just an identity question (liberal) which is not actually an issue. It's far from a comprehensive data analysis.
The author misses out on a huge area where Democrats (and the left in general) have consistently gotten worse at: communication and persuasion. Part of this is the failure of the Democrats to identify, push, and promote charismatic candidates (find a single human being who feels more excited about left ideas after hearing Pelosi, Jeffries, or Schumer talk). The other big part is the concentration of media power in fewer organizations and more ideologically right owners. Even more, the party of the young whiffed on social media entirely which could have lessened the impact of the latter part.
Almost every American is working class. Part of the problem is using "working class" to mean "blue collar workers and poor people".
Hear hear. I have a white collar office job and make a good deal as a tech manager. I get a salary from my employer; therefore I am working class.
Absolutely.
If most of your income comes from selling your labor, you're working class.
If most of your income comes from owning things, you're owning class.
That's it. It's that simple. And yes, that means that in some cases, some working class people are actually wealthier than some owning class people. A movie star or star athlete or even a specialized surgeon might have more money than a small-time landlord, but they work for their money, while the landlord gets money simply from owning a few properties. The former is working class, the latter is owning class.
And no, there's no such thing as 'middle class'. That's a lie made up to pacify people. The only other class is the underclass -- people who have little or no income at all. Prisoners, the homeless, the institutionalized, etc.
How is a 2 car garage not working class exactly?
Its a terminally online attempt at shifting the overton window of what it means to be "working class".
I've seen a similar attack on Platner, that because their mom owns a restaurant, that means they aren't working class. Its a perspective utterly detached from reality.
This idea that anyone who has enough wealth to be above the poverty line is "not working class" and "an unreliable ally" is straight out of Stalinism and one I see pretty frequently in lefty circles. Have a house? A paid-off car? A business? You're a filthy kulak.
Tankies are very susceptible to that, sure.
They often fall into the trap of seeing 'working class' as more of an aesthetic than as a way of relating to capital. Which is why they'll fawn over construction workers and coal miners, but dismiss baristas and office workers.
A lot of places have relatively cheap housing with two car garages which are owned by the working class.
Let's not lose sight here. The enemy is the upper class (typically billionaires, but a lot of time this includes politicians), and they want the lower class divided and shitting on each other so that they can do whatever they want in the meantime.
Because stupid. My dog can choose correctly between 1 cookie and 2. These people either chose worse or just noped out.
Who is like -- "Trump's gonna turn the planet into a pile of ash, but I can't see voting the other way."
Yea it sucks but if you can't see a substantial difference, wow.
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