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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/43631736

    Gnome Slander Rules

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    [–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 111 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Hey I like Gnome :((((((((((((

    [–] SpinItBetter@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

    Linux is all about computing how you want. Remember that it is just a meme.

    [–] Sustolic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

    There are dozens of us

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    [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Uhhhhh anyone know… …the artist’s… name? Cuz cute.

    [–] liinux@pawb.social 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yep, it's shoutingisfun. They have really good pools.

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    [–] Votes@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Reverse image search got me a reddit post crediting @shoutingisfun but don't quote me on that

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    [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Gnome being the default in most major distros for the last 30 years is why Linux hasn't taken over the desktop market.

    CMM.

    [–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Sarcastic comment or not, not knowing that you could use something other than Gnome (or what Gnome is in the first place) was the reason I avoided Linux as much as possible when I was forced to use it during my first year in university

    [–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I loved it when I first encountered it. It was simple, elegant, and easy to use. Over time though, things got bad. I relied on an extension to show the taskbar on all monitors as well as the "Other locations" tab in the file manager to see disk usage plus some other things but these two broke the camel's back. Every upgrade the extension stopped working for a few months, but at least I could delay upgrading for a bit. That was until the extension maintainer went AWOL, so no update was made for at least a year.

    The "other locations" tab showed disk usage just a click away from my usual workflows. As someone who has a habit of making high utilisation of my disks, keeping an eye on disk usage was required. That was until Gnome decided we were too good for such an easy location so now the only place to see disk usage is in the disk usage analyzer that 1) is rarely used 2) takes a while to start up while it's scanning the entire disk. My habit of checking disk usage thus died. Until I had to upgrade to the new distro version. And it turned out I didn't have enough storage left to carry out the installation so my laptop bricked itself halfway. I was lucky that I could boot with a rescue image to clear some space and continue the upgrade but the first thing I did when it was finished was to install Plasma and kill Gnome.

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    [–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    are you sure its gnome and not the hundreds of other problems that appear on kde and xfce too?

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    [–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I see no lies

    [–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Oh, you didn’t want to be disoriented by all the apps flying apart in every direction when ever you wanted to use the task bar? Oh you wanted a system tray not hidden behind a menu?

    Oh, well you can just use a plug in … just pray we don’t update and break all the plug ins anytime soon.

    [–] replicat@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    I'm the guy who actually likes and uses gnome as my daily driver.

    It's for people who want to spend less time complaining about desktop environments and more time actually doing stuff.

    [–] khanh@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

    Agreed, the workflow is good for me.

    [–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

    Agreed. It's prettier then KDE. More same fonts, those are all over the place in KDE. Differentt fonts and different sizes.. no thanks.

    Gnome is perfect for me.

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    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)
    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Nah, we're good

    keeps enjoying KDE

    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    I like KDE too

    We can be frens

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    [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Everyone asking about gnome, but what's a braixen?

    [–] eleefece@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It's a PokΓ©mon, and in the game, the creatures you don't intent to use are stored in a PC

    [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Oh no.

    That's ... that's too humanoid.

    I'm sorry you were made this way Braixen, the internet is not safe for you.

    [–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    Yep. It has one of the highest number of r34 results of any pokemon.

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    [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

    Pokemon X/Y fire type starter. Starts as a Fennekin, becomes a Braixen, then final evo is Delphox, Fire/Psychic type.

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

    Hey, at least it doesn't run windows.

    Things can always be worse

    [–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

    My god, I really don't like Gnome.

    [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

    I love Gnome but it fucking sucks

    [–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Lack of desktop shortcuts by default: pretty much why I always switch to cinnamon.

    That said, it's not inherently bad, it's just not inherently good.

    [–] 0x0@infosec.pub 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I would rather use nothing than gnome

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    [–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

    I like old gnome and have stuck with cinnamon

    [–] bruzzard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Coming from MacOS into Linux and landing on Debian/Gnome encouraged me into the world of keyboard-driven navigation.

    I got into customising keybindings and moved to a split programmable mech keyboard not too long after. Three years ago I made the switch to Sway and now on Niri (all transitions switched off) on my laptop. My desktop workstation still is on Gnome and I switch between the two machines (with full keyboard-driven navigation) seamlessly.

    Yes, some extensions do break on updates but I use extensions very minimally and they get patched relatively quickly. For the experience Gnome provides, I dont mind the couple of days that "blur my shell" is broken. The DE remains stable and the keyboard-driven workflow is fast.

    Now that I daily drive a WM (on my laptop) I am thankful I started on Gnome upon landing in Linux. It still remains the best keyboard-driven DE out of the box for Linux first-timers. Perhaps Cosmic will be the other DE in a few years.

    I hope Gnome sticks to its phislosphy as it truly provides something unique, stable and a great entry point into the world of keyboard-driven workflows out of the box.

    [–] radamant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I don't really see how GNOME is any more keyboard focused than, say, KDE. If anything, other DEs give you much more freedom for a keyboard workflow.

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    [–] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

    It puts the Gnome on its skin or else it gets the XFCE again.

    [–] wylinka@szmer.info 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    Pretty art, but this meme is really getting boring. I think people are just regurgitating "GNOME bad" because they heard it from some tech youtuber instead of actually trying GNOME for themselves. IMHO GNOME is awesome. It's a bit different, but very comfortable when you get used to it. And definitely reliable.

    I often see people using some h4x0r i3wm setup scrolling through workspaces and windows for literal minutes trying to find some app they were using earlier, while on GNOME you can just see everything spatially organised in the activities view. They think they have it "tailored for their needs", but they end up with an unmanageable config file with bits copy-pasted from the internet that is getting harder to understand over time and keeps breaking. I know it from my own experience too, I got tired of it and came back to GNOME.

    But if you wanna go down that route, GNOME is also highly customisable. There's lots of extensions that let you change every aspect of it. If you know some JavaScript, you can make your own, there's a decent community and documentation. Things like Niri or Cosmic actually started off as GNOME extensions.

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    [–] anonfopyapper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    What's wrong with gnome?

    Literally the only foundation that made Linux usable, stable, unified and customizable.

    Yeah it is barebones and extensions can't really fully supercustomize it, but it does its job pretty well.

    [–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Controversial choices made by devs against most userbase mostly in the name of semplicity at the cost of usability.

    Lately they've updated Nautilus's "open with" menu, which was working fine, to libadwaita and now it lacks search, so I must scroll through a long list of apps. Or other stuff like that which breaks retro-compatibility like no one cares (why do I need extensions and a custom theme by a random dude to make gtk3 not look alien next to gtk4?). Poor extensions developers must convert their extensions every six months.

    I'm still on it because I like its apps' UX and Plasma still feels unpolished. But I think that's just a matter of time, given how things are going on.

    [–] adarza@piefed.ca 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    gnome dumbed itself down too far, it's turning into the win10 or 11 of linux--with features, basic features.. expected features and functions, now missing.. and the bland ui that makes it difficult to even see a damn window border without customizing tf out of it. i do not subscribe to their idea of one workspace per window or application. fk that.

    the only thing that was keeping it on a few systems here was an extension. one not even made by them. i found an equivalent kwin script for plasma. starting switching stuff over the next day.

    i won't go back. and i've found that gtk and libadwaita stuff actually looks better on kde, anyway. so no change in what i'm using, just what everything runs from.

    i might still put gnome on for others, if all they're looking for is a dumbed-down, simple launcher for their browser--like an alternative to chromebook, but that's it.

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    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    you're at the whims of devs that DO NOT take user feedback at all. so it's a very opinionated DE. If you're not using GNOME the way the devs intend you to use it, then you shouldn't be using it according to them. so it kinda goes against the grain of Linux as a whole which is all about a custom user experience. GNOME says no to that idea.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    None of this would be bad if the devs also didn't think that they should be the default Linux desktop. It's one thing having a constrictive desktop environment that forces you into its way of doing things. I can see that actually being useful in a corporate setting. But to borderline-force that on everyone by way of defaultism, especially those who don't know better, is where it crosses a line.

    [–] Dojan@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I wouldn't blame GNOME for being the default environment. They're the default because GNOME is stable, and their apps have a coherent design language. It's a very approachable platform. Their app names are boring, but they're self-explanatory.

    • Calendar
    • Calculator
    • Files
    • Image Viewer
    • Web

    KDE on the other hand is still decently unstable. Last time I had KDE crash on me when doing nothing but opening the panel edit view was literally last week. The application UX is a bit all over the place, and a lot of them feel like they were "made by developers." The naming scheme is the olden cutesy KDE/Linux naming scheme, which is charming but feels pretty alien when you're new to it.

    • Merkuro
    • KCalc
    • Dolphin
    • Gwenview
    • Konqueror
    [–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    It crashed when you were editing a panel? I literally don't remember the last time KDE crashed on me, and I'm even on an NVIDIA GPU.

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    [–] exu@feditown.com 16 points 1 week ago

    The project is filled with "my way or the highway" types. They've generally held back Wayland development by not implementing a bunch of APIs everybody else wanted. GTK especially with libadwaita is very hostile to theming, leading to worse experiences on other desktops.

    [–] esc@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago

    It literally isn't.

    [–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 week ago

    I really like using gnome DE. No software is perfect, and no user interface will suit everyone's user case though.

    The gnome project however has some members that are quite opinionated to the point of being hostile to any criticism or even just opposing opinions.

    [–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Gnome is great.

    Most Linux users can't deal with every single project not prioritizing customization. Gnome having a unique workflow (which is a great one) is unbearable for some reason.

    I am not gonna place the full blame on the Linux community though. Gnome started out way more customizable, so maybe that suddenly getting pulled from underneath Gnome users so inconsiderately gave it a bad reputation.

    Then they went and did absurd things with libadwaita to not only stop supporting customization, but actively interfere with people's choices of customizing Gnome and libadwaita apps so apps ~"are viewed and used as intended by their developers, and people don't accidentally break apps and complain to the devs" (i.e. Bullshit).

    Literally the only foundation that made Linux usable, stable, unified and customizable.

    I really can't see how. It's popular and user friendly, but I can't seriously give it that much importance.

    For me at least: It just serves to show that Linux UIs can be clean, consistent, and user friendly. Which might pull in funding from companies and governments looking for a good UI to mass deploy.

    But if it didn't exist, Plasma would've eventually filled that vacuum.

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

    Cough cough server side decorations in wayland being sabotaged cough cough

    [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

    Gnome is quite good with dash-to-dock and the system tray plugins, but it does kinda suck both of those need to be plugins.

    [–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

    Get in the fucking PC braixen.

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