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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Half the success of Lemmy is not becoming the three ring circus of Reddit.

How long will it last? Idk. I've already seen people complaining about AI bots blowing up their instances with requests, mining for data. I've already heard complaints of bots manipulating votes on certain subs and accounts.

If that gets worse, Lemmy gets worse.

But for the time being, we're mostly just a large community of terminally online nerds doing our things and sharing amongst one another, which is what Reddit was supposed to be about.

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Decentralized control is probably the biggest asset we have to fight back against these issues. Each instance host has motivation to keep their community in the best shape possible, for users and visitors.

If one instance is having struggles, you can migrate to another - and instance hosts could share tactics and information about the process of management.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Decentralization is more adaptable and brings resilience.

It is easier to compromise one instance, but it is a lot harder to compromise all of them. Meanwhile for centralized social media, if the one is compromised all is compromised.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

As evident with the owner of X trying to pressure Steve Huffman to burn down Reddit as well.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

terminally online nerds

I am offended and in agreement

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We might eventually have to get more exclusive, or have separate "public" and "private" modes/communities, maybe like how masto handles post visibility...

I'm not sure if the open internet can ever be fully trusted, especially now with roving packs of predatory crawlers scraping for genuine human OC for their plagiarism machines.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes. We don’t need millions of users to be successful. We come on here for a reason, we enjoy it. And to me that’s all that’s needed for success.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago

I still wouldn't mind 100k monthly active users, or even 75k.

That should mean one additional active poster on all the community where I'm alone, and that would be cool

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I come here because I am fairly positive most are actual humans. A lot of the real idiots on reddit are bots looking to increase engagement.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People really do seem much more down to earth and talkative here.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

Yup!

I really dislike the notion that every website needs to aim to gather everyone on the internet to it - one platform to rule them all.

Can't we just have lots of smaller sites that have their own communities, cultures, and histories?

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some people made reddit their identity and anything that threatens it scares them.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I heard a guy at a restaurant the other day talking about someone who was "reddit famous". His party had no context for what that meant. I felt bad for that guy

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Redditors really do embarrass themselves often.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's sad is there's people here that still make reddit their identity.

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why would they throw all those beans away?!

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure I got shadow banned twice for just linking Lemmy?

AFAIK it’s mostly not Redditors themselves, but the system they’re stuck in.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

While that’s true. I have seen neutral places where people were resistant on trying out Lemmy in the first place. I wish they saw the full value of this place but they said they “don’t care if it’s open-source, decentralized and has good third-party apps. I haven’t heard about it before! Everyone just uses Reddit”

At least I got one guy to check out Lemm.ee a few months back.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

most posts on the piefed feed are posted by lemmings so nahh

but we can be successful collectively ;)

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

but we can be successful collectively ;)

that's the spirit!

That’s the beauty of it - it doesn’t matter, since it’s all the Threadiverse. Lemmy, Piefed, mbin, whatever else may come along. As long as they all use ActivityPub, they’re all interoperable, and people can choose whichever one suits them best. Afaik, though, Lemmy is still far and away the most popular right now

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Either way, it is successful.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And here's a problem. Even I, pretty tech savvy user, can't keep up with all this. I look away for a moment, and you'all on a new meta already, all the old servers are bad now and all the cool kids on a new system already. I can't imagine anyone with an advanced grass-touching ability being able to keep up with all this shit.

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[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I have both Lemmy and reddit.

The front page on Lemmy changes every week.

On reddit it changes daily.

The only new posts I see best the end of the day on Lemmy are all in German.

Don't get me wrong, Lemmy is great, but it's got a LONG way to crawl to get to reddit's level of success.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago

I ditched Reddit 2 years ago and haven't been back. This is a self-solving problem: as more people use and contribute, there will be more content and engagement.

But as a heavy user of Lemmy (and previously of Reddit), there's things you can do. Chief among them is switching from the "Active" list to "Hot" when you want to see new stuff. I pretty much never run out of content, and that's without even dipping into "New"...

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sorting by top day and hiding read posts gives me more than enough "fresh content." If you're craving more, maybe that's just the Reddit addiction.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find there is new content but so often a lot of it is US politics based. Some other stuff does exist but its hard to filter out the stuff I don't care about at times.

Sure I can subscribe to other communities, but finding them can be difficult and searching for all is swamped by Trump and Musk.

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem with Lemmy is that the demographic that uses it is too specific: nerdy, atheist, college educated (usually in computers) Gen X and early Millennial left-wing political hobbyists.

Like, there's a reason the one of the only specific media franchises that can sustain an active community here is Star Trek.

[–] tio_bira@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nah, Reddit front pages didn't few fresh since 2021 for me, and recently it became worse by the bots posting the same post i saw 5-10 days early again.

[–] fondue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bit of a community question on the OP theme:

I see a lot of yard-sticking with Reddit, and frequent comparisons are 1) more of Reddit should migrate here and 2) not enough content is generated in Lemmy. These are both confusing to me. Anyone else?

  1. Reddit is a cesspool. Its users are often toxic. Administration and moderation is burdensome. With self-hosted and decentral-hosted Lemmy instances, why would we want more of Reddit to come here? Other than the philosopher king meme, I don't feel the urge to bring R. communities and users to L. Separation is good, no?

  2. Content follows users. Users follow content. Lemmy has less content. Fewer social games and participants who are seeking a dopamine relationship with the internet. If you come to Lemmy seeking dopamine fandom, you will be disappointed (narwhal bacon and my axe this amirite lol). That shite is generally absent, and users aren't constantly jerking themselves off to get a spicy comment in for votes. This is good, no?

I guess I don't understand the attraction to Reddit, or the urge to think of Lemmy as a replacement. It is similar, but shouldn't it be different? If it isn't different, defederated or no, won't it eventually slide into toxicity? I understand why people like things about Reddit, but... There's Reddit for that. This doesn't have to be that.

Thinking of two groceries: one is a little odd spot that is run by an eclectic family, has some stuff you want, some odd German snacks you don't understand. It's cool, but it doesn't have everything.

The other is a giant stucco nightmare warehouse that mostly sells deep fried heroin and also ten extremely useful things. It's run by absolute creeps, and the customers are standing uncomfortably close, and being uncomfortably irritating. Maybe one of them is waiting to follow you home because they didn't like what you bought.

Does the community want to put a sign out front to woo those people over? Does Lemmy perish without them? I'm relatively new here, but my own answer to both is no. IMO, Lemmy does not need to be an engagement addiction machine, and the people who want that might just really be wanting Reddit deep down.

Sorry for the diatribe! I tend to like that it's kinda sleepy here and often more authentic. I like seeing what Germany is doing on a memie wemie from time to time. I've got other shit to do beyond my phone, and don't want to have a pack of digital ultra nicotine with me at all times. Peace, homies.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A social network needs enough users to actually function. In the early days, Lemmy/kbin/associates were too quiet to be appealing, so there was a constant push to bring in new users. As this is a Reddit clone social network, inevitably that means hoping that Reddit users will come across.

I would argue that Lemmy et al is already at a high enough number of active users that there's a basic critical mass; that there's enough activity here such that a new user would find plenty to keep them engaged. It could certainly stand to be much bigger still, but the pressure to grow is much less intense.

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[–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, after 2034 Lemmy can actually be sucessful

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is 2034 the year of Lemmy?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

right after the year of linux

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They’re both successful by non-capitalist metrics.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Seems like a cop-out to call "usage rates" a "capitalist metric"

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The whole point of federating is to make those metrics obsolete. What matters more is maintaining the community you have, not infinite growth.

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[–] ddplf@szmer.info 5 points 1 week ago

Lemmy will become a superpower by 2034

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

there isnt enough porn on Lemmy. and despite that there isn't enough porn, theres like 100 specialized sites for specific body parts, with very low activity and the same person posting everything

Be the change that you want to see

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Explorer guy hates when words are misspelled.

[–] ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 4 points 1 week ago

Is it really though?

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