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TLDR: The r/selfhosted subreddit has a Discord server. The owner's account got hacked leaving the server in a precarious state. They submitted a support ticket, but Discord has not taken action in weeks and probably won't at all, so they are considering starting a new Discord server.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 126 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fitting that r/selfhosted can't selfhost.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hosting costs money, maybe if you disable voice, video, uploads, and only allowed text it would be manageable but discord is free. I run my own chat server but it's only for like 10 people.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 96 points 1 week ago (2 children)

selfhosted use Discord

Lol

Discord absolutely failed them They consider starting another Discord server

Double lol

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I definitely agree. Lol. But I also totally understand using Discord. I assume the community isn’t meant exclusively for people who currently self host, but also for people interested in starting to. In that regard, Discord will most likely be what those people have and are willing to use.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Correct. I have received help from that server in the past, and it's unusable now. Part of what I hope to accomplish is to replace Discord, or at least offer my friends an off-ramp. Getting started with Discord is way easier, and in the year 2026, I wouldn't know what other client to use to look for a community that gives me quick help via live chat. I no longer know how to use IRC, I've found.

I get the point that that's where the people are, but also kinda feel like the selfhosted community should act as a vanguard to a point. Sure, maybe you have a 'front door' on a corporate platform, but kinda feel like in the case of selfhosted sticking to your principles and purposefully rejecting platforms that don't fit the vision is kind of important especially when you're currently in the middle of finding out why.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Also I feel like discord has a limited lifespan until it will necessarily turn into worse. They lose money each year so I wonder when their vc money runs dry

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 89 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But why a new Discord server? 🤦

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago

That’s the punchline brother man

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Fool me twice well... Shame on... Shame on...Point being we been fooled once we won't get fooled again!"

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Fool me twice, get a free ticket to fool me thrice.

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[–] cookiecoookie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're a completely unserious owner if they use Discord still as a "selfhoster", that and getting hacked on top of that shows how careless they are as a moderator.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Self hosting and providing a public service are two very different things.

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[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

At least they’re admitting their fault.

Edit; Their matrix room if anyone is interested.

https://matrix.to/#/#selfhosted:selfhosted.chat

[–] MilkToast@breakfast.haus 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's kubernetes so I couldn't even fix it if I wanted to

lol

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My hotest selfhosting take is that stuff I use in my day job, docker/k8s/cloud is not worth it and generally worse for long-term self hosting than a Debian box.

Like I have the skills to troubleshoot containerized setups, it's litterally my dayjob, but I'd rather not deal with it in my freetime unless there is no other way to run it.

[–] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that a hot take? I see a lot of people saying this, including myself. Kubernetes solves problems at work, but is way overkill even for my moderately elaborate home setup that would cause more troubles than it solves. If people want to use k8s at home go ahead, but I don't.

[–] esc@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago

k8s is overkill for majority of companies as well

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

After using Proxmox for a while, I swear by LXC, at least the way it is provided there.

Makes containerization make sense without all the pain.

Disclaimer: not even an IT guy, so can be gravely mistaken, just want to own my stuff.

[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honestly, I'm really happy with the ability to just try out stuff with docker and then nuke the entire compose stack if it does not work. I also know perfectly where any possible leftovers from the attempt are (the bind mounts or volumes) and can be certain I deleted everything I "installed".

Although I have to admit that I absolutely had some issues with containers in the past, mainly when there are two or more containers with dependencies on one another.

Never used k8s or the cloud so I have nothing to comment on that ;D

[–] brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Eh, docker is actually amazing for self hosting. ESPECIALLY anything python, I'm not here to fuck around with conflictinging requirements and venvs all day.

k8s can fuck right off though. Completely overkill for home use. Honestly completely overkill for most business uses.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Discord sucks.

[–] jay@pie.zerojay.com 19 points 1 week ago

Matrix, dudes.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago
[–] senorblackbean@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Stoat chat has been a good Discord alternative.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

last i checked it was very difficult to run your own instance (including voice chats)

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What advantage does it have compared to Matrix?/IRC?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It mimics discord, so functional voice rooms with screen sharing, text channels, and so on..

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Matrix has all that these days too

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have not seen a matrix voice channel ever in any of the servers ive seen. Also using element.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Join different servers then? Not sure what to tell you.

I use element and I am in many different matrix servers with voice rooms. I host my own as well, voice is done via livekit which makes connecting via MatrixRTC very easy, and is easy to setup and host.

Those same voice rooms support webcams / video, as well as screen sharing.

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[–] roundabout@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

It’s worked okay for me so far as well. The mobile apps aren’t super stable yet and notifications don’t work but it works for what it is right now. I do miss the stability of discord but I’m not going back

Fluxer as well. It has iOS and Android apps in beta too.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Those saying "just self-host Matrix/Stoat/XMPP", do not understand the power of network effects. If people are too lazy to sign up on your custom server, and you end up with 50% of the users you would have gotten if you used Discord, is that worth it? What if it was only 10%?

I wish there were a solution to this. Interoperability sounds nice until you have multiple competing standards (like Matrix and XMPP)

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago

The solution is for everyone to migrate to Jami, which is obviously the better option!

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a certain irony making this comment on Lemmy.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well I'm not trying to start a community around helping people, I'm just a participator. If I wanted to maximize the number of people I could help, I might move back to reddit

edit: a word

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I understand that POV, but if people want help, they'll go to where it is. Walk the talk of FOSS. That's how we'll build better communities.

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Why, use Redddit if you are in a self hosting community, I understand the community of curious people are there but are you really going to be selling yourself short like that? Than to be using discord as a self hosting community messanger?

Points furiously
THIS Alanis! This right here!

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
LXC Linux Containers
XMPP Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol ('Jabber') for open instant messaging
k8s Kubernetes container management package

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