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Iran has the right to defend itself from zionist terror

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[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago

every accusation a confession

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago

where are the mossad headquarters? a perfectly valid military target.

yhea, Israel intentionally uses it's civilians as human shields. just like they use them as pawns in the west bank.

or placing settlements straight in the border.

not even IMAX can project this much

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

astronaut-2 Wait, it's all projection?

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 month ago

I am shocked this is so unlike them

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The iron dome being down is a big deal, yes?

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't it one Iron Dome unit that got hit? I'm assuming there are multiple sites.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The sites are spread out if you destroy one launcher it does make it much harder for them to intercept within that area. Destroy a few launchers and you very well could have a blind spot you could then funnel missiles through. They can move them around to try and cover the blind spot but they have a limited number of launchers so the more you take out the bigger the blind spot becomes. Then you can probe with dummies, or drones, and once you find it just shoot your missiles concentrated on that spot. It seems to be the Iranian strategy. I noticed they were specifically targetting the launchers with saturation attacks last night, and some missiles were getting through. Was just a matter of time before launchers got taken out. This is huge for Iran. If you can take out 1 launcher you can take out more. Eventually Israel is going to start having a lot of trouble intercepting, and they'll probably be forced to concede at that point. Without the Iron dome Hezbollah, and Hamas could flood their skies with low-tech rockets, and they wouldn't be able to intercept them. All Iran has to do is clear the way for them. It's why i think Iran has focused a lot of its attacks on the north of Israel because if they can knock out enough launchers in the north Hezbollah can start doing saturation strikes, and Hezbollah has thousands of low tech rockets stockpiled im pretty sure.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

wouldn't flooding the skies with low tech rockets work... now?

The interceptors are crazy expensive compared to hatchet job rockets and vastly outnumbered by them too, they couldn't and can't stop them if they tried, why not launch hundreds of smaller rockets along with these bigger payloads?

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

I think the rockets have a minimum size due to the range, so the calculation is different compared to Hamas rockets. That said, those interceptors run out very quickly, and surely ballistic missiles are harder to shoot down with the standard iron dome interceptors (which seems to have been designed for targeting relatively small slow locally fired rockets).

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

wouldn't flooding the skies with low tech rockets work... now?

thats what hamas does, first they use a swarm of cheap missiles and then use a good one to blow up the iron dome while its aiming at the cheap ones

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

It's not as effective. Irans rockets are much faster so they need less of them to break thru, and Irans are actually accurate and can hit launchers unlike the low tech ones. The low tech ones are so slow that the Iron Dome can shoot down tons of them and you have to launch way more to get thru. Iran can launch like under 10 missiles at a launcher and 2 or 3 will get thru. Because theirs are just so fast theres not as much time to intercept them.

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe you haven´t been following the news, but Hamas and Hezbollah are not in a position where they can do anything. Iran is on its own.

(I suspect hezbollah has a grudge againstItzn for not helping them when Israel invaded lebanon)

It's because there's a Takfiri zionist colony between the countries now (HTS "controlled" syria)

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Hezbollah is weakened but they still have missile stockpiles from back when the supply lines thru Syria were open. If the Iron Dome came down i have no doubt they'd start launching them. Even without orders a lot of individual units would probably just see the opportunity and launch.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yea, it makes future strikes easier

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well hopefully this is the beginning of the end of Western terror in the Middle East.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It will probably end up being more of a stalemate for now. Iran, and Hezbollah do have a lot of rockets, but their ability to produce more, especially to resupply Hezbollah, is limited. Israel will probably either concede once enough iron dome launchers are destroyed or they'll call in America to save them. Which i think they already tried to do. Both sides will suffer serious damage, and this could go on for a long time.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

I hope it does. America needs to be bled dry

[–] Eirene@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel will probably either concede

I doubt this very much. Not that they won't claim to concede, but that they will never keep their word. They'll likely only ceasefire until they can either resupply or come up with a different strategy. Then they'll attack again.

They have proven to the world that they absolutely cannot be trusted. Their word means nothing.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Oh i agree their word can't be trusted. The thing is tho Israelis are pampered. They've had the Iron Dome so long theyre used to bullying everyone without suffering any consequences. I don't know if they'll be able to handle the punishment Iran is giving them for long. If the Iron Dome goes down Israel knows it's fucked. So they'll back off for the time being, and im guessing Iran will let them. Iran's stated goal here is to remind Israel they shouldn't fuck with them. Israel can't be trusted, but if you make them feel the pain they still have self preservation as a motivator.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

~~netanyahu~~ mileikowski was wishing trump a happy birthday and begging him and the EU for support, saying they're fighting for humanity.

Vid starts at 4:11

https://youtu.be/QlDZSk7LSvI

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Not likely while they have nukes.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't it also mean that Hamas' relatively tiny rockets could also easily get through?

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

that seems like a lot of assumptions by the poster

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

They put Mossad in about the most densely packed spot they could, israel loves human shields

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

is it? modern Iron domes are mobile, some are in trucks and other are platforms that can be pick up and moved somewhere else, in the Video the iron dome is set up in a small plaza surrounded by buildings including the aparment building the video is recorded from

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

I don't know why this is so surprising, they are demons who don't value any human life. If they did, they couldn't do what they've done in Gaza.

[–] TommyBeans@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Not many assumptions need to be made, from this long exposure you can see interceptor launch sites.