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Trump has rejected the EU's "zero-for-zero" tariff offer on cars and industrial goods, demanding instead that the bloc commit to purchasing $350 billion of American energy to offset the trade deficit.

Following his implementation of 20% tariffs on EU goods last week, which triggered significant market downturns, Trump indicated openness to negotiations while emphasizing his "America First" stance.

He also criticized EU product standards as "non-monetary barriers" designed to block American exports.

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He also criticized EU product standards as “non-monetary barriers” designed to block American exports.

lol, lmfao even

product standards exist for a reason.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago

FUCK YOU TRUMP

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

This fucking moron. So he shuts down green energy initiatives here, tries to push oil, then tries to force other countries to buy dirty energy. Fucks sake man it's something new every day.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

EU should squeeze the Tariff wokism out of Snowflake Trump.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago

As soon as he spends that much on ukraine

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

Whatever, Trump.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

And if the EU needed any further incentive to keep rushing for renewable energy, here it is.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

That's like walking past a McDonald's and having the manager grab you and drag you inside the store and force you to buy some McNuggets. I am scared that Trump is not an idiot and knows exactly what he wants to achieve. It starts with "I'll show them...".

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 201 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is just Mafia like extortion. It doesnt really matter now if/when these tariffs are undone - Trump has totally destroyed the US reputation as a reliable ally and trade partmer.

No deal with the US is worth the paper its written on, as everything is dependent on the whims of one person.

Presidential systems are sources of weakness and instabilty it seems. They're no better than monarchs, and the whole system can easily be twisted into dictatorship. Look at Russia and now the US.

[–] cortex7979@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He also crippled the trust in us tech. It will be a slow change but the EU will eventually get rid of Microsoft 365.

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

And Azure (process is already running at work) and Google workplace like things (searching for a eu partner).

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

Turns out that allowing people to choose from a very limited pool of potential rulers every couple of years doesn't actually give them any real power over their society, and maybe it's just a way to delay revolution while the true ruling class gets all the benefits of the old monarchs with almost none of the blowback, because we're all too divided over which potential ruler is less blatantly evil to address the real problems.

It's a very effective method of social control, but it would be a really bad idea for one of the de facto ruling class to try to step into the de jure ruler's office and try to run it for himself like a dictator. That would probably blow up in his face.

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago

It's a classical pol sci example for how to do or not do things. Emerging democracy's that adapts presidential systems are far easier to go back to a dictatorship than a semi presidential or parliamentary system is. So all US advisors in south America pushed for presidential systems.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 129 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (39 children)

The EU are currently trying the carrot (offering zero for zero), Next comes the stick (targeted import and export tarrifs).. it would hurt the EU, but cripple the US.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 86 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just tariff cloud stocks, watch everything crumble.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Coordinate with China on this shit. The EU and China may have their differences, but they have a common goal here and together they substantially outweigh the US

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think there is a possibility for an EU, China, Canada plus others.. agreement to smooth over the gap from loss of US trade.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They should say "okay but only green energy, no oil or gas"

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like there won't be any good faith negotiations with the US.

This sounds like BS, does the US even have enough capxitt or export $350 billion worth of energy (oil, LNG?).

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even I can sell $350B worth of energy if I increase the price enough.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But he said the tariffs were permanent. This was not a 'negotiating' tactic. Oh wait, he fucking lied, like he does every time he breathes. This is the "art of the deal", AKA the bad deal. What an idiot bully con man. President Felon.

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