Since 2020. Covid broke a lot of brains. Once people started driving again, it’s like they forgot (or rejected) all the rules. Bad behavior that I rarely saw, like blatantly running red lights, aggressive driving, using turning lanes as passing lanes (even through intersections) went from rare to daily.
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Hell yes, since the pandemic, it has been nuts. Especially how they behave in parking lots.
I have noticed an uptick in the behavior that when you are backing out of a spot, people are more likely to speed up to get by you than stop and wait. When I can't see what traffic is coming, I back up slowly until I can see. Recently, I had one guy honk to let me know he was going to speed past. Thanks, I guess?
It's difficult to discern if it's statistically significant. Perhaps these are people who always back into their parking spaces due to automated parking on more vehicles. Maybe they have lost their empathy for people who back out of spaces. Meanwhile, I have to guess what they are doing and then wait for them when they suddenly stop and back up towards me to get into a spot they had driven past.
The same thing happened after 9/11 and lasted for months. People were stressed, upset and angry and it really showed up in their driving.
We now have the Republicans and their malignant narcissist glorious leader actively destroying this country. Medical costs, housing and grocery prices (among other things) are completely out of control and keep getting worse and Trump claims affordability is a "hoax" while adding more tariffs. Nearly eradicated diseases are surging again and children are dying. Our food has become unsafe to eat. We're in a war that was completely unnecessary and the dotard in chief is shitting his pants and pretending he's a tough guy while crawling into food carts to hide. Nero isn't just fiddling while Rome burns, he and his ilk are smearing shit on the walls and actually lighting more fires.
People are naturally stressed, upset and angry, and it's again showing up in our driving.
What makes this worse is they actually don't have the humanity to care because to them you're just "poor people".
Not really. It sure can feel like it when you run into one, but people have been shit at everything since forever.
The city I live in had 15 pedestrian deaths from cars as their previous record, this year we are up to 40.
Cars are rapidly increasing in size and weight, decreasing their visibility, and people wont get off their phones. I do also partially believe that covid hit cognitive function and that tough times are making people antsy and angry too.
I think the older we get, and the more we know how things "are supposed to go" we notice more when things don't go that way. I usually try to chalk it up to people that are inexperienced, elderly or not local. But there will always be people that are dicks because they can
It was way worse before phones were outlawed while driving. Now, people are back on their phones while it’s illegal. It’s a legitimate issue, and a hard one to solve.
People are braking like 30% later because of distractions inside of cars. More recent automobiles can tolerate braking so suddenly, but older ones cannot. Phones, funny enough, have gentrified the roads via producing unsafe drivers
And if they’re not on their phones they’re tapping on the giant iPad on the dashboard to change the HVAC settings.
I actively enjoy being a polite and considerate driver.
If you’re not in a 2024+ Tesla there’s every chance I’ll let you out, buddy. I use my turn signals every damned time. On country roads I leave a big gap between me and the vehicle in front in case someone wants to overtake and needs to pull in. I move to the side of the lane when motorbikes are coming up from behind me and make sure to leave space for them to pull in too. I let trucks out if one’s trying to overtake another. If someone’s tailgating me, I pull over and let them past, imagining they’re a bomb disposal tech heading to a school for blind orphans to save those poor kids. “God speed, you crazy bomb whisperer!”
Life is good.
People on their phones at red lights is insane. And then they have the absolute fucking nuts to look at you in the mirror when you beep at them for almost missing the entire turn arrow, like you're the moron. Blows my nuts off. I gotta get out of the city, man.
I'm at a point where i'm glad they use the phone on a red light.
In France, during the past 10 years, yes. Most people around don't stop at stop signs anymore. They don't even pretend to slow down. It's like driving schools have stopped teaching the basics to young drivers (who are now 30/40 and still drive like morons).
If you're a shitty driver (BMW or VW), come to France! There are no cops on the road except once a year around Christmas to pretend they still exist.
No, not personally. Have you considered other factors such as a change in local population (increased traffic), new local stressors (stressed people drive aggressively), has your driving perspective changed (higher driving standards as you get older or have kids)? I'm willing to accept my local area may be an outlier too.
People ALWAYS say that drivers have gotten worse since [date] or that [my-local-area] drivers are the worst. I remember people saying this 30 years ago.
I am aware that pedestrian deaths are up in the US, which can be attributed to phones and vehicles increasing in mass. Other than that, let's see the data.
There are a lot of distracted drivers who think as long as they match the speed of the car in the lane next to them, no one will know they are doing something on their phone. Meanwhile, the whole road is blocked by people doing 10 miles under the limit because they're relying on each other to pay attention.
The number of people who will sit until honked at when the light turns green also seems higher. Motherfucker, if you're first in line you have an obligation to watch the signal!
It seems so, but I don't have any data to back this up so it's yet another anecdote. Speaking as someone who spends a lot of time on a motorcycle, though, I feel that I probably have a keener eyeball out for this sort of thing than most.
People kind of went insane during the COVID lockdowns and as far as I can tell remained at that approximate level of insanity in the years afterwards, whereas the number of vehicles on the road returned right back to its original level.
nah it's fucked now. and as a result, I'm more aggressive as well
had a guy last night with LED bulbs in halogen housings pull up across the red light. put my highbeams on because I couldn't fucking see. he turned his LED highbeams on. when the light turned green, they swerved towards me.
funny thing is, that's similar to what I do when I'm being blinded - I drift towards the center of the road so I don't go into the ditch. but this guy thought I instigated the situation when I was just responding to him instigating the situation.
nobody won. we're both pissed off. it's stupid. but fuck the assholes, nothing will change unless there are consequences. so I'm gonna try to make consequences for them. and that means I appear as just one more asshole on the road to others.
another peeve of mine is driver aids. it's made people so goddamn bad in parking lots. I don't give a fuck that your backup alarm wasn't going, I'M WALKING HERE, and "I didn't see you" isn't a fucking excuse or apology for you being a dangerous shit driver. fuck you.
I’ve seen endless people not using their blinkers, and I’ve seen people diving over two, three, four lanes of freeway to make their exit, I’ve seen people changing lanes in the goddamn well-marked no lane change tunnel, speeders and super slow drivers alike,
and I think it would prolly be for the best if the standards to get a license were much, much higher.
Yep. Coinciding directly with the proliferation of massive trucks with 10 seats and 600 horsepower engines and a bed too small for a TV to fit in.
I wish I lived in a first world country who could provide reasonable public transportation so I didn't have to deal with driving for EVERYTHING in my life.
Had a few people scream at me when I am cycling to work on the few sections I have to use roads with cars on.
Recent one I was cycling along and someone pulls out into my lane and expected me to move over for them. Nah, you fucking wait, this is my lane not yours. I can stand in the road with you shouting for a lot longer than it takes for you to reverse back to where you should be waiting.
The thing that is pissing me off recently is that when people stop at a light with wayy too much room in between their car and the one in front of them. I think it is a byproduct of many drivers not being able to visualize how large their car is Like seriously, most people leave enough room to fit an extra car or two at the stopped light. Imo it contributes heavily to how many cars can actually pass at a green light, and it makes traffic so much worse.
Counterpoint:
The last time I was rear-ended, I was in stop-and-go traffic going uphill. Every time I moved a few feet and stopped, the car behind me would pull right up to within a few inches of my bumper. It was driving me crazy.
Sure enough, the person behind him hit him, then he hit me.
The rule from the book when I was teaching my kids to drive was: You're supposed to stop when you can still see the where the rear wheels of the car in front of you touch the street. If your good obstructs the view, you're too close. If you can see street between your car and their tires, you're too far.
Not really. But the amount of asshole on e-scooters has gone through the roof!
Reading over the responses from people here, I'm realizing that Philly drivers really are as bad as I believe they are.
Most of the responses here describe what I've been seeing in Philly for decades. Running red lights, blowing through stop signs, turning right on red from the left-turn-only lane. I refer to that as the "Philly Right Turn". There's also a "Philly Left Turn" (AKA, turning left on red from the right-turn-only lane) which is slightly more advanced because it involves crossing at least one additional lane of moving traffic.
I had a guy hit me because he went straight in the right-turn-only lane and the road had a dog-leg at the intersection because of construction. He said it was my fault because "everyone does it". His insurance didn't agree with his argument, and I got my deductible paid (thanks, dashcam).
When I was in college 30 years ago, I used to joke that Philly drivers should have their horns linked to their brakes so that when they leaned on their horn to warn other drivers that they were going to run the red light, the car would automatically brake instead. That wouldn't work since then because people stopped bothering with the warning honk.
The things I've seen change more recently is what I mentioned in my other comment: driving on the wrong side of the road and driving while staring at their phone.
I’ve noticed over the many years I’ve been driving (1) it depends on coincidence (sometimes there are suddenly ten jerks in a month instead of the average of two -plain statistics) 2) it depends on me (if I drive defensive, it seems every one does so too).
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