I leave it in the car...every... time...
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You gptta just be stubborn as hell. Refuse the bag, take your cart to the car, and chuck it all in
i don't mind bringing the cart/handbasket back in to the store. i just don't want to fill my pockets with bags.
How do we know if these are actually a good thing for the environment? It seems like it's at least possible the excess waste offsets the benefit.
If you have a reusable bag, it uses more plastic than like 100 individual bags, but it produces less waste that floats in the ocean or decays in a landfill.
Lived in my house for a few years and bought like 3 plastic bags in that time. We also took a few from my partners family when we moved in so we did start with some.
Stats show a vast drop in how many plastic bags are used just by charging a tiny bit of money for them. Plus by having a cost now it makes sense to make them better.
It’s a complex question to answer. But, basically reusable plastic > reusable cotton > plastic > paper
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/sustainable-shoppingwhich-bag-best/
The article briefly mentions this, but having lived in states with plastic bag bans, and states without - well drive through the countryside and count all the plastic bags in ditches, trees, streams. Paper might be more intensive to produce, but the lingering effects of plastic bags are being underestimated I think.
I always feel it's so dishonest comparing the energy requirement between plastic and paper. Yes, paper takes a lot to produce, planting them, machinery for harvest, processing and so on. But energy is practically infinite with solar power. And while alive the trees are working as carbon capture, and when the bag gets thrown on the ground it puts the carbon back into the soil. I wonder how many paperbags have killed fish and turtles compared to plastic ones.
I know it's obvious, but shouldn't it be: reusable plastic > reusable cotton > single-use plastic > paper
The shitty little "reusable" bags that wear out after a few uses are def worse than the micron-thin plastic were overall.
My state banned plastic a while back and I will way, i don't see bags stuck all over the bushes, roadsides and trees anymore so that's a plus.
I got a dozen or so insulated Wegmans large cooler bags that have lasted 5 years so far. (6 for each car) They're double-stitched, hardcore zippers no signs of wear. I suspect their realistic lifetime is my and my wife's death. It's not like the kids are going to pine over the bags or anything. Now the real question, assuming they're evergreen (jury is still out) is 25-35 years of waste reduction from a 0.001 disposable plastic bag actually net negative against 12 large textile bags with thick plastic liners, zippers, and insulation?
The bags probably host $200 in total and I'm quite sure I could buy a lifetime supply of disposable plastic bags for $200.
Not seeing plastic bags stuck to a tree every quarter mile feels good. I think reusable is probably the right answer, even if it's not a huge ecological win.
How much material and energy goes into making those thin plastic grocery bags? They're apparently extruded as a tube and then crimped and cut, Compare that to a woven polyester bag.
The whole "reduce, reuse, recycle" thing: I'm a woodworker, I don't buy 600 grit sandpaper for rubbing out finishes, I use paper grocery bags. So I get shop supplies for free and use less plastic. Plastic bags mostly get re-used as trash bags, only the ones that are very torn get recycled. I don't buy purpose built trash bags.
If you HAVE a re-usable bag, use it. Sure. Stacking up re-usable bags that you don't take to the store IS worse.
I can't find the video now, but a couple years ago there was a science creator who broke down the overall environmental cost (co2 production, manufacturing chemicals, microplastics, etc.) of producing the materials needed to make the various bags, manufacturing, transportation, and time to break down/end of life impacts. The single use plastic bags were less impactful than any reusable bags by far. This can be increased by reusing the single use bags as you would a reusable bag before using it for garbage like you do. Only paper bags were marginally better than single use plastic, but even that is unsustainable as it is still a single use item, and produces all kinds of chemicals during the pulping process. Not to mention only ~50% get recycled, leading to more forestry to supply materials.
All that to say you're right. The 3 R's are the way to go.
My personal pet peeve are the "environmentalists" who rush out to buy new "environmentally friendly" options rather than using what they currently have until it needs to be replaced. Particularly since most of the organic replacements don't last as long. Yes, the plastic version will end up in the landfill regardless, but they could have reduced their overall impact by 5 to 500 organic whatevers in the meantime. Eco-consumerist nonsense. /rant
In my case, I largely use store plastic bags for trash bags since they have way less plastic than a regular kitchen trash bag.
You can get frames that go over cabinet doors and such that hold them open.
brought*
If you forget the bag, go home and fetch it.
This gives you a while to be annoyed and frustrated, which helps you remember next time.
If you just buy a new bag, it's such a non-issue that you never learn.
I used this technique and it fixed a year of bad habits in two trips.
I have these nylon ones that scrunch into these tiny little bundles that I keep in my bag all the time. Can't leave them behind without also leaving my wallet behind.
I if forget one I own it and carry everything in hands. Or more often take it to the car in a shopping cart, dump everything inside and worry about taking it to my apartment later.
Paper Bags > (Reusable) Plastic Bags. Trader Joe's knows what's up
All depends on how many of those bags I'll need.
If I've got a lot of grocery bags at home, then I'll go with the reusables, since I'm stocked on trash bags. But if I'm running low, I'll get a fair amount of plastic bags since I'm able to keep my trash output down to a couple of small bins; there's one under the kitchen sink and one under the bathroom sink.
There are tons of businesses near my work (next to a middle school and a high school) that have a posted no backpacks allowed rule on the door. Mostly because of shoplifting, and sometimes there is a pile of backpacks outside the door and a bunch of kids inside when school lets out. But there are probably many reasons they don't want to carry a backpack when they don't have to.
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