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[–] 31 points 3 days ago

Just a reminder that we had an agreement with Iran before all of this, and by all accounts, it was working and Iran was adhering to it.

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    [–] 100 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I wonder if Trump will try his clearly working strategy of escalating things and yelling threats.

    Maybe he’ll say some other country is offering to open the strait of hormuz for cheaper and Iran will get scared and cave.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago

    after all: his strategy seems to be making a lot of people a lot of money. while ruining the lives of us american working class folk, and bombing schools full of middle eastern children.

    ain’t no war but class war, indeed. they know we’re “used to” gas prices like this, they’ll never go down again.

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    [–] 61 points 4 days ago

    Iran was now seeking the release of the entire $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets upfront

    When you break your word twice a day, people will eventually figure out that your promises mean nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    The blockade of the Persian Gulf does not exist anymore. A carrier was hit by a missile and they pulled back 500km. They should just leave, it is only showing more and more weakness. The only thing the GOP knows is doubling/tripling/quadrupling down on being wrong. They usually can buy their way out or litigate until the other party runs out of money and gives up, but the military is powered by people and they don't understand people.

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    [–] 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Yep... it's dumb to negotiate and try to play hardball if you don't have the upper hand.

    Fart of the Deal indeed

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  • [–] 36 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    This all sucks. We're in the same situation as Russia. The strongman in charge can't afford to admit defeat, and he doesn't care about the cost, so there's no end in sight. Something needs to happen to end this...

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Republicans could end this any minute with majority in all three branches. They support the coverups, the bribes, the war, the reckless loss of lives, the reckless loss of American lives, and the pedophilia.

    Yet, if you say the USA would be better off if all republican representatives, the ones responsible for this mess, disappeared today the USA would be in a better place. People will call you a fascist. It is a simple truth, one that many can't or won't accept.

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  • [–] 53 points 5 days ago (57 children)

    Well diarrhea donny just raised the stakes again telling the Iranian Islamic Republic (in front of the rest of the world) that he is considering killing them all

    Unlike the kiddy diddler, those people are hardened fanatics and find honour in death... shit is just going to be worse and worse

    Thank you Muricans... your dumbassery will be painful (if not deadly) for the entire world and we only have you to thank for it

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  • [–] 87 points 5 days ago (27 children)

    Unlike the kiddy diddler, those people are hardened fanatics and find honour in death

    Not crucial to your point but this sort of orientalism too often goes unchallenged. They're not "hardened fanatics who find honor in death" (at least not any more than any other culture that values martyrdom, which is most of them); everything Iran has done so far can be explained through the cold hard math of geopolitics.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 days ago (10 children)

    Agreed, what are US Marines but cold hard fanatics that find honor in death?

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    The US has cold soft fanatics that find honor in death (as long as some one else is doing all the fighting and dying)

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    That's why the US military is mostly people without better prospects or any prospects. Most of the people I served with came from two core demographics: trapped without hope of escape in the ghetto or trapped without hope of escape from rural bumble fuck. The somewhat literal fear of going back to where you came from vs obliterating a bunch of "bad people" is an easy math problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    IRGC is the current leadership of Iran. They did not hold complete power before the war. Previously the president and ayatollah held power as well

    Their actuons have largely been rational from a geopolitical perspective, butbtheir end goals differ from what previous Iranian governments would have looked for

    The mass purge of thousands of civilians being an example

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    [–] 16 points 4 days ago

    the price was raised by TRUMP, his insistence that the conflict continue as long as epstein files isnt on peoples search results, or airwaves.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago

    US is incapable of peace with Iran. The only outcome will be US just leaving, as donald the brave victory retreat. Iran doen't have a BeM demand. It has an Al Ansarah (Yemen) sanctions lifting demand, and cash upfront for any deal.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    Iran: I have changed the terms of the deal, pray I don't change them even more.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 days ago

    Iran and the US had earlier agreed on a memorandum setting out a pathway towards a permanent settlement. The understanding included demands for the lifting of US oil sanctions, removal of the US naval blockade on Iranian ports, the unfreezing of Iranian assets abroad and an end to fighting on all fronts, including Lebanon. The agreement later unravelled, with both sides accusing each other of violating its terms.

    Mohebi said Iran was now seeking the release of the entire $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets upfront, rather than receiving the funds in stages before and during negotiations.

    "The issue of Yemen was not on the agenda of the previous agreement. We are now demanding that the lifting of the blockade on Yemen be included in the agreement," he said.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    The issue of Yemen was not on the agenda of the previous agreement. We are now demanding that the lifting of the blockade on Yemen be included in the agreement," he said.

    There's absolutely no way we can outblockade the Houthis...

    They live and operate in cave networks that our best bombs can't get to, and we wasted them already anyways...

    They just sit in there making their own drones from raw materials, the only component they need is a gps unit. When their original leader was found, the only way to get him out was fill his tunnel with gas and set it on fire. Every last member is equally willing to die today or live 60 more years in a cave and then die the same way.

    Mohebi rejected the suggestion that the Houthis were acting on instructions from Tehran. He said the Houthis "makes its own decisions and does not need to coordinate with us for anything in the world".

    That's also bullshit, Iran funds and controls multiple groups like the Houthis.

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