I was watching This Is England from 2006, and it reminded me of the olden days of yore, in the fabled before-times, where people would just bunch up together every Friday in someone's flat, get drunk, blast music, and talk without distractions.

I can barely remember it now.

Anyway, get off my synthetic lawn.

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[–] 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Maybe it's something of the people I socialize with. But we don't look at phones when we gather. It's impolite.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    Same here. It's still occasionally a problem, someone will be phoning while we're hanging out. But generally we're all in tune with each other.

    The problem I've been having lately, is my SO wanting to text every new exciting thing we do or buy, to our friends. I'm trying to be balanced about it, but I prefer to have fun stories to tell in person. Or have a new purchase be a surprise for the group when I bring it out.

    I'm not anti phone, I text too, and tell people stuff before I see them. So again, I'm trying to be balanced, so I don't make a big fuss. It's just on my mind.

    Edit: for reference from the other commenter, I'm definitely not over 60. Much younger. Though not a youth.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago

    Phones are a great distraction when you're in a liminal space with nothing interesting going on.

    But parties tend to be the opposite of that. The only reason someone looks at their phone is if they're trying to avoid the party. And why even show, in that case?

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    [–] 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Kids these days will never know the simple joys of lighting a filthy mattress on fire in a derelict parking lot and drinking a case of warm beer that was the easiest thing to steal from that one gas station a town over with the near sighted night clerk.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    My town had a bowling ball factory and on winter nights when the river was frozen we would steal reject balls and throw them off the bridge downtown. They made a truly incredible noise when they hit the ice.

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  • [–] 70 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    They also don't know what it's like for someone to move away and you just never see them again.

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  • [–] 76 points 4 days ago

    Yep. When our group had nothing to do we pretty much all went to somebody's flat and just hung out. Talked shit, smoked cigarettes, listen to music and laugh a lot. Pur friend circle was guys and girls who were not in relationships with each other so was cool as we could all be ourselves. Maybe we might jump in a car and go somewhere when it reached evening or just stayed in and had our own micro party with just the 7 of us. I do wish o had photos from then, but I am also glad we do t jave photos from then.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 days ago

    I think another thing is the lack of cameras. If you brought a camera before it was because you intended to take pictures. Now, everyone has a camera with them at all times.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    I was born in 1952.
    To me, people born after 2000 are true, real "aliens"

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    [–] 24 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    We used to have bonfire parties out in the woods. Such good times.

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    [–] 29 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Are the parties young people have nowadays just less wild because everyone has cameras? Or do people mostly party at clubs and bars and so they expect it to be on camera? Or do people not party as much?

    When I was younger and before cell phone cameras of high quality were everywhere, parties were filled with debauchery and drugs like out in the open.

    Is this why Gen Z thinks hedonism is cringe?

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  • [–] 38 points 4 days ago*

    Are the parties young people have nowadays just less wild because everyone has cameras?

    I believe so.

    Is this why Gen Z thinks hedonism is cringe?

    I think part of it might be the (reasonable) fear of being caught and it haunting you forever increasing overthinking. But I think the main reason is excessive access to everything online desensitizing and removing the enicing part of exploring 'taboo' stuff. Under that aspect I think, the internet as we have it today has also just reduced curiocity overall.

    I think a more significant part though is that sex, drugs and the like are just not that taboo anymore. You are not hooking up as an act of rebelion against your parents if your parents lived hookup culture and are open about it.

    And a lot of us are just more lonely/less social which loops back to the original post I guess.

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    [–] 13 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Change used to be gradual.

    You could drop Cleopatra into Queen Victoria's court and she'd figure out the rules in a week.

    Obama was cutting edge in 2008 because he used a Blackberry

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    [–] 14 points 4 days ago

    This is what we'd do because we were broke. If we had money we'd go to bars and stuff, but otherwise we'd ask the supermarket for free fish ice and buy beers, then filled the bathtub with them.

    As people came over they'd go drop the booze in the tub and pick up a cold one.

    Many fun nights, though finding people using your bed, not so much.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I was born after 2000. I couldnt really tell you the point of going to a party where you dont know anyone, like what seems to be most coming-of-age movies. Even some parties with friends have been extremely dull, and wrecking some strangers house seems like a great way to add weight to my conscience

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Well, one could argue that not doing things that push the boundaries of your comfort zone is why echo chambers exist, whereas meeting people you don’t know and interacting with them is how you make new friends and potentially grow as a person.

    I’m not saying you’re wrong for not wanting to do that, or even that you should want to do that, but that would be the point of it.

    And for the record, parties that happen in movies aren’t really representative of what actual parties were commonly like, at least in my experience. The most wrecked that I’ve ever seen a house get after a party was needing to clean or pick up some trash. The way you keep the weight off of your conscience is to help the host clean up the next day, like a decent human being.

    (I can’t afford a lawn, but get off of my dirt lot!)

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    My friends and I would be glued to the N64 or xbox instead

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    "Nobody looked at their phones during a party in 1999"

    Holds up picture of a LAN Party

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I was born in 93 and I don't know what any kind of friday night party is like.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I watched Donnie Darko the other night and the age of it just hit me all at once. That world is unrecognizable now.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Having nothing to do but engage others. Board games. RISK 2210, a 3hr game with 5 turns each. Does anyone actually play games together any more?

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    [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    I mean I was born in 1989 and I can't really remember it because I wouldn't be invited to those kinds of parties until after the invention of the smartphone.

    Hell I remember in high school everyone spent most of the time swapping phone bodies around and sharing polyphonic ringtones via IR blaster. And later, Pokémon via a link cable.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Rose tinted view. There were plenty of distractions without phones and people would just get black out drunk wayyy more often than they do now. Maybe a positive is that people can pave themselves easier now.

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  • The House Party no longer exists. It is one of the great cultural losses.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    I'm born in the late 80s and I don't know what a party without phones look like. We had phones by the time we were in highschool.

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    [–] 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Bro all of you with friends happy with staying in one place are crazy. Every partier I know wants to change bars every 45m

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 days ago*

    There was no way to coordinate, so you'd talk in school on Thursday and decide about meeting up in so and so's house whose parents were away on Saturday and it would just spread like through some weird subcommunications channel and people would show up and you never knew what to expect because nobody was sure who would show up or when or if...

    Then if you were like a couple of lads or gals short someone would be like "I know this dude at so and so adress let's go there!"...

    It was spontaneous. I don't think spontaneity has changed much in humans over the past two decades, just the form of it, or perhaps the constraints within which it operates.

    It feels less important now, less like an adventure.

    Now bring me my defibrillator will you?

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    [–] 8 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I am after 2000 and am not attached to my phone at all. To the point where my work tried contacting me for almost an entire day and I didn't check messages until end of day.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago

    I'm a way it's easier to disconnect because you don't have a phone attached to the wall that you can hear ring from any room.

    But there is an expectation of being immediately available so when you're not, people freak out.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    As a post-2000 person, I can get a glimpse of that in some TV shows like breaking bad. Also when looking at my parents pictures from when they where younger.

    But I've never experienced it. You can hang out with friends and all but good luck convincing 4+ friends to NOT take their phones to a gathering.

    There's always someone texting their gf/bf, someone who likes to post too much, someone deep in online gatchas.

    Even an inactive user will carry their phone because of navigation, feeling insecure at night, paying stuff...

    There's a billion excuses (with a range of validity) to take your phone with you.

    Meh 😕

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Easily solved by social compact, box (or more fun, jenga tower) on a table, phones go in box. First person to remove phone from box for reasons other than poop break (I'm not a monster) or leaving owes the group something, even if it's just a little dance.

    It's helped myself and most of the people I have done it with to truly understand how much we are actually addicted/dependant to the little electric serotonin dispensers.

    YMMV on getting others to agree 😅

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