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[–] 151 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Oprah.

That cunt gave the anti vaccine idiots a platform and two charlatans a stage.

Fuck Oprah, fuck "dr." Phil and especially fuck dr. Oz!

Oh and The Apprentice

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  • [–] 47 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    She has such a bullshit rags to riches story that immediately falls apart because she’s a class traitor. She gave Oz a platform which has a direct through line to people like RFK/Joe Rogan. I’d argue she had a direct hand in the large movement of housewives that don’t believe in western medicine because she sells snake oil just like Oz and Phil.

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  • [–] 94 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Cops. To see how they just pummel people to the ground or pull their guns for the smallest of things is unsettling to watch. Also, the treatment of female officers.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    The one that always stuck with me was when they harassed a dude just walking down the street because he was in drag. But it was in, like, Plano, TX or something so that made it "suspicious."

    Another one I can't remember was on COPS or just some bodycam footage of a gay teen who was beaten by his parents and kicked out getting arrested becsuse they claimed he assaulted them; despite being the only one completely battered and bruised and the neighbors defending the kid having witnessed him getting beaten by his father.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    The progression of COPS was really wild. It technically started in 1989 but the early episodes were a pretty far departure from the version you’re correctly calling out. They were a lot more visceral - I remember one episode where the officers showed up to a suicide. The guy used a shotgun in a pickup truck and the back windshield was blown out with blood and brains like dripping from it, and this is what the cameraman zooms in on for a solid 30 seconds.

    It was just a lot more gritty and unrefined. That’s the interesting part for me, this show changed to the version you described where they only showed DV and beating up crackheads. They chose that; they went in that direction on purpose.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Anything with a laugh track

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Watching Friends without the laugh track Is fucking surreal. There’s so much dead time. So many frames of actors just staring at each other lol

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  • [–] 25 points 2 days ago*

    Married with Children is really hilarious for this because the live audience would just go nuts when the main cast would first appear in an episode. Especially Ed O’Neil and Christina Applegate. So many scenes where they come through a door and then just stand there for 30+ seconds holding a pose and making cute faces.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 days ago

    The 'you're fired' show starring donny dump.

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  • [–] 50 points 3 days ago (13 children)

    Scrolling through this, a few thoughts come to mind:

    1. I forgot how deep into the decade Friends went, and it was definitely well past its sell-by date several seasons before it ended.
    2. Will & Grace probably best fits as a show that aged poorly, though it was groundbreaking in putting gay characters front and center at all.
    3. As shows that won’t be remembered as fondly because they’re cringey relics of their era, it’s a dead heat between Sex and the City and Entourage. Entourage is worse, but I think contemporary viewers already knew that.
    4. Honorable mention to Joss Whedon and Ricky Gervais personally making their classic shows a lot harder to enjoy.
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    [–] 12 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    The Dollhouse.

    A bunch of hyper-sexualized women held in coffins against their will in a state of childlike innocence. Intermittently, they have personalities downloaded into them, using computer technology, making them Alpha-powered super-assassins.

    When one of them gets too woke, she is suppressed, coerced, and gaslit into buying back into the fascist agenda of the faceless corporation running the Dollhouse.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    It's just called Dollhouse

    They also have men not just women.

    And it's basically like Westworld except they have more personalities vs just western.

    Its actually a very good show and is anti capitalist/ rich crazies

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    [–] 48 points 3 days ago* (11 children)

    I tried rewatching How I Met Your Mother and couldn't get more than a few episodes in because I was so bored. I'm sure my getting older is partly to blame (not as engaged by the unrealistic exploits of some mid 20-somethings), but also Friends-style comedy feels outdated now.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    How I Met Your Mother is such a strange combination Aughts tropes. I mean its Friends but everyone pretty quickly becomes not good people like Seinfeld. It’s a sitcom but it’s also a puzzle box mystery like Lost. The lead, Josh Radnor, is an obvious Timu version of Zac Braff.
    And yet it was huge at the time. Ran for nine seasons, completely reignited Neil Patrick Harris’s career, second staged Jason Segel in to not just that guy from Freaks and Geeks, but a legit movie star. Broke open Cobie Smulders in to another movie star. And yet it’s almost completely forgotten about. Until you mentioned it I think it’s more then one or two times on Lemmy, you never see gifs or memes from it. It’s like it was completely forgotten for our shared cultural landscape almost as soon as it was over. I think the only thing it was remembered for was how bad they fucked up the ending and Game of Thrones has taken that from them even.

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    [–] 22 points 2 days ago* (7 children)

    I've tried to re-watch Sex and the City but its impossible. I loved it back in the day.

    Also the West Wing - I'm sure its still good but the current state of politics makes it look like satire.

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    [–] 47 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Some friend and I were discussing how poorly 24 has aged, but also how different the world views its subject matter now.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    eureka. i tried to rewatch it recently and its... oof. one of the main characters has an autistic son who is a savant and they talk about hopefully finding a cure for autism someday. meanwhile pretty much all the scientists and engineers show actual autistic traits that im sure the writers thought were just quirky smart people traits. meanwhile the sheriffs house is voiced by a male character trying to do a womans voice and haha isnt it funny how its kind of inappropriate towards him constantly because its a dude doing a girl voice? then the constant perpetuation of stereotypes, nerd/jock bullshit, and really bad science thats just magic with a technological paint job.

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    [–] 14 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I feel like That 70's Show would apply here.. maybe not as poorly aged as some of the others mentioned but definitely in the running

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    [–] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Anything made by Dan Schneider, because he was outed as a huge creep. And even if he hadn't been outed as a huge creep, the content in most of his shows, especially the foot stuff, is really inappropriate at times in hindsight given those shows were aimed at tweens and teens.

    Like, really, Dirty Dan? You think your freaky stuff is appropriate viewing for people who are still in grade school in some cases? No wonder that guy was outed as a creep. And I thought some of his stuff was funny when I was still in his target demo and didn't even know of the creepy on-set behavior until after I had been aged out of his shows for 20+ years.... -sigh- Hindsight sucks.

    Also, the guy was really bad about recycling plots from his other properties, eg. iCarly's plot, being that the older sibling is left to take the place of an absentee parent and care for the younger sibling in their absence, is recycled from What I Like About You, it just replaces the older sister from that property with an older brother, but that's neither here nor there, I'm just pointing out a lack of originality with that.

    Although tbf, Dirty Dan is just a symptom of a far bigger problem in Hollywood. That doesn't diminish his behavior in any way though, it just points towards deeper systemic rot that he was a result of. His on-set abuse was still awful, but he's a symptom of Hollywood's abusive culture, and not the root cause.

    The root cause for his behavior is decades of systemic industry-wide unmitigated rot that effectively allows those types of environments, and people like Dirty Dan, to exist in that industry.

    Manswers and 1000 Ways to Die are also kinda cringe trash in hindsight as well. Hell, that can be said for basically all of the former Spike TV's library.

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    [–] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    House, MD is a top contender.

    A lot of his edgy jokes were made in a time where being politically incorrect was daring and spicy, but now it just makes him come across as a bigot

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago

    But he is a bigot. And an asshole. I've never felt like the series was trying to represent House as a role model. He gets the consequences of his behaviour all the time, but never learns. People keep him around because he's good at his job, and that's it. Otherwise everyone gets tired of his shit real quick.

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    [–] 18 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Not quite 2000s rather early 2010s, but House of Cards has to be up there.

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    [–] 17 points 3 days ago

    NBC Nightly News

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