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[–] 167 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

As someone who actually makes the food I think drivers shouln't get tips but instead should be paid more. They should also have full vehicle maintenance covered while driving for work too. The whole delivery service thing is a grift that is eroding the resturaunt industry hard. If it wasn't for VC money it wouldn't even be feasable. Things will need to change soon

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  • [–] 126 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Tipping culture is bullshit anyway. If you run a business where you can't afford to pay your employees enough without going out of business, then your business shouldn't exist.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    I think all tipped staff should instead be paid livable wage, but still be allowed to collect tips. Tipping should be something you do to flirt with the waitress or reward a team that did a really outstanding job

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  • [–] 58 points 6 days ago (19 children)

    Correct me if I'm wrong but the job is basically:

    Accept an order (or don't if you don't feel like working)-> Pickup the order you didn't have to pack-> Deliver food & sometimes have 0 interaction with customer -> Hope for tip 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

    I've worked for tips before. I can relate to the anger of the delivery driver but an Uber Eats job seems so simple that it's almost insulting to the customer that a tip is even getting discussed. P.S. I do tip

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  • [–] 25 points 6 days ago (15 children)

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the job is basically:

    You're wrong, but it's understandable. The key point you're getting wrong is: You make money from a job.

    The pay for most of the assignments you get from DD or UE is usually not enough to cover fuel, let alone maintenance on your vehicle. Certainly less than minimum wage for your time. Which is legal for them to do, because you are a contractor, paid per job and not per hour. If the customer doesn't tip, you are earning less than minimum wage at best. In many cases, you're actually paying to work, but you're forced to take these unprofitable orders just to maintain your rating and keep getting assignments. (In my area, drivers call this "eating shit")

    At best, you can take about 6 assignments an hour. To net minimum wage, you need at least three of them to tip well. When a restaurant doesn't bother to start preparing the order until you arrive, the time you waste waiting is 2-3 orders. If any of the remaining orders that hour don't tip, you're below minimum wage.

    It is a shitty, exploitative service that nobody should be using. If you are going to use it, be aware that the service is taking everything you're paying, and completely shafting your driver.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    Client does not need to be aware of how much each worker in the chain earns. He is aware of the price he is buying the food.

    Same as delivery guy is aware of money he gets from the job. If he doesn't like the money, he should not take the job. Tips are totally optional bonus.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I think the tipping should be dealt away with. Instead something like: vehicle value, insurance cost, vehicle depreciation, maintenance, fuel costs, idle vehicle use time, "acts of god"--traffic accident delays, unexpected failures (wrong orders basically); should be factored into the pay instead of hoping for tips.

    Then again none of this would exist if that was done.

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    Enormous $300 Uber order.... So like two numbers 1s from Chick fillet?

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    [–] 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    It seems that the driver doesn't need to know the value of the box they are delivering. They should expect the same tip from a $3 box and a $300.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    2 things can be simultaneously true:

    1. Tipping culture in the US is absolutely fucked and employers should be paying their employees
    2. Underpaid workers currently depend on your tips to survive
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  • [–] 8 points 6 days ago* (2 children)

    Now, I just elect to not order any delivery at all. There is a 15% service fee, a delivery fee, AND food markup because they charge restaurant like 30%.

    I am not sure how is this a fair deal. The guy ordering $300 worth of food probably already paid $60-$100 to get his food. This is already way higher than any traditional delivery service would ask for. The price tag just no longer makes sense for me.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 days ago* (3 children)

    I thought for uber eats the "tip" was a bribe or bounty you have to add to your order ahead of time to ensure it even gets picked up?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    They don't know the tip until after the delivery. I've had a driver be like "they're making me wait to pick this up, please add a tip for extra time" (yeah ok buddy) I had already put a large tip on the delivery. I really wanted to remove it after the driver pulled that shit though.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 days ago

    The stripes on the tests fade. It wouldn't be that visible after three months.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 days ago

    Bringing kids into a world while this is the backdrop of one's life seems almost heartless.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 days ago

    Well. ..timeline isn't quite plausible. As these line tests fade pretty fast.

    In a week it would be basically white with no lines.

    Maybe 2 weeks.

    Still funny tho

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    always the victim, these delivery drivers...

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    [–] 9 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    I'd say that's chaotic rather than neutral.

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    [–] 9 points 6 days ago

    And he knew it was his car because...

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago* (9 children)

    Vindictive delivery drivers like this are yet another reason why I only make my own food.

    Also, you know, I won't spend 300 quid on 1 meal.

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