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[–] 121 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And their prices are 15-30% higher than any place else. And their customer service sucks. And the only employees are high school kids because they only pay minimum wage. And their hours are 8:30 am - 4:30 pm, Mon-Fri, so you have to take time off work just to go there.

At least that's how it is for me where I live. It's a wonder any of them are still in business. The saddest part is, most of them say shit like, "Well at least we don't have Bidenomics to worry about anymore. Things were way worse then."

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  • [–] 71 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I expect higher prices when I'm trying to shop local. I know they can't compete on price. I'm willing to pay the premium specifically to support small business.

    Sure, restricted hours kind of suck, but like...I'm not going to hold wanting to find work/life balance against them.

    Customer service is hit or miss anywhere. Really, I think the idea of customer service has mostly gone out the window everywhere. It sucks because HS kids (and anyone else working these jobs) aren't being taught these skills. With a small business, at least I can have a nice little conversation with the owner even if they're socially awkward. People skills are hard. Obviously there is a line in there somewhere that goes into shitty service or bad attitude.

    I do plenty of shopping at chains, but it's important to me to throw money at small businesses. I've watched my city grow a lot in the last 30 years and the only thing keeping it interesting are the local businesses.

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    [–] 84 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    Instant walkout. If they’ve already started a dialogue, I (respectfully) let them know why I’m not buying—otherwise I don’t bother. I’d literally rather see a shitty MS Paint drawing than an AI generated picture.

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    [–] 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    It would bother me too.

    But not to the point of withdrawing my support, assuming their business has nothing to do with IT and AI otherwise.

    Doing your posters with AI nowadays is the same as using ClipArt+ComicSans in days of yore.
    OK, it's not exactly the same. So then I'd have explain it to them. "Forgive them for they know not what they do."

    That said, I rarely support business just because it's local and small. There needs to be at least one more reason. I have seen too many local & small businesses & owners that exploit and pollute and corrupt just like their big counterparts.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago

    They never built a clip art data center in my backyard.

    Plus you still had to creative use the clip art. So there was human assembly there. Plus a human most definitely created the clip art in the first place.

    So overall, not really the same

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    [–] 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I did let a place I go semi regularly know that I choose not to eat dessert recently because their dessert menu had all AI images. The next time I was there the specials were just text (like their standard menu)

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    [–] 36 points 1 week ago (28 children)

    Supporting a small business with an AI Poster is much better than supporting a big corporation

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (25 children)

    If they generate AI slop, they're supporting the big corporations.

    Edit: damn, that's a lot of AI bros trying to make themselves feel better with "nuance" and "lesser evil" arguments down in the comments. I guess if you don't see your money directly go to OpenAI, it helps you sleep at night better. Out of sight, out of mind, as they say.

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    [–] 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Restaurants using AI for food menu is a sign of bad quality.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The best pizza I ever had was from a hole-in-the-wall place in Montreal with a layer of grease in the windows, thick cobwebs covered in dead flies, and an air-conditioner black with mold.

    If anyone cares, or remembers, it was Rock And Roll Pizza on Bleury, where the Spectrum used to be. In front of the NYKS.

    It was a Persian guy running the place. One day I convinced a Persian co-worker to eat there. I guess he gave shit to the owner because the next day the place was a lot cleaner.

    Basically they made some kind of shawarma pizza that was out of this world.

    Oh and the business next door sold sex dolls, there was a fully inflated transexual doll in that window.

    I miss that Montreal. I don't like the crappy generic condo abomination that's there now.

    So anyways, if greasy windows and dead spiders didn't turn me off, what does it say that seeing some generic gross AI art turns me off?

    (I just remembered another MTL pizza place with greasy windows and dead flies that was so amazing a guy drove from the South Shore just to eat there.)

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    [–] 31 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I hate even more that I get there and they tell me "you know you can get it cheaper on Amazon" or "we no longer stock it but you can get it on Amazon". Bud, I can get every single thing in your store on Amazon and yes, it is often cheaper but I am trying to keep local stores and local jobs alive.

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    [–] 30 points 1 week ago

    Eh. They think it's much better than what they had, and probably can't tell it's AI generated. They paid a local "graphic designer" or even had their kid do it.

    The more "mom and pop" they are, the more I forgive them.

    Local chain restaurants should know better than to use AI images on their menu, though. Not that I eat out anymore.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    It's worse when their menu pictures have the glitch where it makes things look like triptaphobia? I forget how it's spelled and I'm not going to look it up for obvious reasons...

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    [–] 27 points 1 week ago

    Damn I'm missing that "ugly" stuff made in Paint and typed in Comic Sans more and more every day.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago

    You are not alone. Its a surefire way of telling me they do not give a shit about their business. Its honestly nice that AI makes it easier to spot ;)

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago

    I have way more respect for chicken scratch drawn with a Sharpie on a piece of cardboard than AI “art.”

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago*

    I’m mostly bothered that they for some reason always have that unsettling trypophobia filter.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago

    Yup, I genuinely refuse to support businesses actively using AI.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago

    There's a shop near me that has one of those sandwich board signs on the sidewalk with some sort of "fuck the billionaires, support small businesses" messaging, but for some idiotic reason, it has the faces of those billionaires on it, so every time I see it, I just get angry.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago

    If I see AI posters, menus, or signage, I don’t spend money. Period.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, using AI art for advertisements etc is lower bar than amateur throwing stuff together in paint, gimp, inkscape or some random office software.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You're not the only one bothered by this. But I'm having a hard time drawing a line in the sand for some of my favorite places.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    If you're a regular there, I think it's reasonable to contact them and say that you go there often and are bothered by the AI. "I started coming here regularly because it felt authentic". "You guys don't feel authentic anymore, and I'm disappointed" or more strongly "and I'm thinking of taking my business someplace that cares enough about their customers to put in the effort." "I wish you'd go back to the way you used to do things." Etc.

    Assuming we're really talking about a small business, it's very possible someone will listen.

    I reach out to small businesses all the time working on OpenStreetMap, and (obviously with selection bias for the ones who respond) they're usually just pretty nice-seeming people trying their best with what they have.


    Edit: One thing I think I should've emphasized isn't just to say "please stop using AI" but that specifically "I liked it better the way you used to do it." or outright, with no comparison, "I liked the way you used to do it". "It made you unique." That is, give them a concrete alternative. For a lot of people, AI, like plagiarism (because it is), is a tool used when someone thinks their voice isn't good enough. It helps to try to convince them that it is enough and that they not only don't need AI but that it's harming the unique identity you enjoyed by making them blend in with everyone else.


    Edit 2: I didn't think to include this before, but like obviously, be honest. If it won't upend your business there, don't say that it will; consider real effects it'll have, like "I don't know that I want to recommend this to friends anymore." If you've only been there five times, don't be afraid to say that; "I've shopped/eaten/whatever at your establishment several times, and [...]". If you're asking somebody to be authentic, you not only owe it to them to do the same, but it's probably a more effective strategy. They'll probably be more moved by Bobby Jones (43) who likes to come in for a burger every couple months after work and just doesn't like the vibe anymore than their biggest fan they've never seen, the oilman in from Dallas who spends $20,000/month at their establishment and is so simply appalled that they cannot in good conscience return until the Burger Shack de-lobotomizes their mascot design.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Recently saw an AI photobooth. No one was using it, they were taking their own pictures instead.

    Why the fuck would I pay you to stick a prompt in when I could do it myself if I really wanted an AI generated picture? You may have cut some of your costs, but now your final product has no value to it.

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    [–] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It’s like when I go to vendor halls at conventions and half the vendors are repackaged aliexpress/temu items

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    Im with you! Unfortunately, a lot of small business owners are the most capitalist minded people around. That was a very sad revelation for me in my earlier adulthood. Just gotta keep searching for the good ones because they are around.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago

    This is just another thing on the list of thigs that I dont like business doing.

    Slop advertising itself is not enough to stop me supporting local business, but it is a mark against them should competition ever arrive.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately the percentage of average people who are bothered this is pretty low.

    Most people just view it as a cost-saving measure, which small businesses tend to do.

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    [–] 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    I recently saw a local store with "we have the best fruit" handwritten on a piece of paper. I don't think the alternative of AI poster is a poster designed by a local artist for them. It's AI poster or no poster at all. You may prefer no poster but I'm not bothered by AI in such cases.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago* (5 children)

    It’s AI poster or no poster at all. You may prefer no poster

    I'm also on team 'no poster'.

    I'm far more likely to buy fruit from that place with a handwritten sign on a piece of paper than I am from someplace with a shitty AI slop picture of what a robot thinks fruit looks like. If you're going to have pictures of your product, it had better be actual pictures of the product I'm actually buying. I don't want to see some AI idealized picture of it -- I want to see what it actually looks like. And, no, you don't need to hire a local artist for that. You've got product to sell? You've got a phone in your pocket? Take a fucking photo of it. Put that photo on your poster. Done. No money spent on artists.

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