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[–] 3 points 11 hours ago

Double digit...so like $10 right, its only going up by $10.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    So, the 32gb DDR 5600 I have sitting in this drawer next to me is currently my best investment?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago

    Cheap ram for you, just not for you for you. Like bullets...bullets for you, just not for you for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    I didn't think the 32GB DDR5 7200MHz kit that I got off an eBay auction for 72€ would be a flex a year later

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago

    Ram companies stock prices is falling down.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    Well, when hockey equipment got too expensive I set my sights on soccer. When RAM gets too expensive I'll reset my sights again.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, Amazon is just putting GPUs into warehouses so their competitors don't get them. WTF.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago

    Yeah this is about more than llms. They're done, or want to be done, doing commerce with the plebs, the bottom 90%. Everything is for the top 10% (already make up 50+% of purchases and spending power, that stat is from 2024 so more now) and B2B.

    We get the scraps of the scraps.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago

    Don't worry, they'll be outdated soon. If you mean AI GPUs that is. Those are obsolete once the new gen is out because there are massive generational improvements (particularly amount and bandwidth of memory which is what matters most)

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  • [–] 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Suppose you're a RAM maker. You're raking in fat profits from this maybe-a-bubble situation. Your market forecasts show there's a risk the bubble might pop. Or that new Chinese sources of your commodity are about to become widely available in the West, cratering your beautiful margin. What do you do?

    One thing you might do is: encourage the public to buy now, while prices are still high.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Certainly you don't invest in more production capacity, if you suspect that demand will crater before your new production comes online.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I thought ASML was backordered for like years?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    That's the way they like it. Building more capacity costs shitloads of money, and reduces the price of your product. ASML, TMSC are a racket.

    If a major player like the US govt decided they wanted an ASML machine and didn't want to wait, ASML would find a way to make more in parallel. It would cost billions more, but that just makes it expensive, not impossible. With the right incentive, anything is possible. ASML and TSMC aren't incentivised to change the current market.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago

    I guess I'll double down and not buy new hardware even harder!

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    How mich margin is enough?.Gamers nexus just did a video on Micron's gross margins, and its absolutely disgusting. Its gone from mid 30% to 90% in some of their divisions in a few years.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    So when is the free market gonna correct this?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    This is text book market mechanics. Demand rises and so do the prices. As a consequence the demand is somewhat dampened and therefore the market can slowly (!) heal. Due to the shit ton of money that is and can be made, new actors are incentivized to enter the market and existing actors are incentivized to increase their capacity (so no one else jumps in and grabs parts of it).

    Now the question is: is it a good sign if such a big number of buyers are willing to throw such an excessive amount of money at you? Probably not, so you might bet on this not playing out in the long run. And the following crash will be hard, because then all the components from the closed data centers would hit the market at the same time with all your backorders going poof.

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  • [–] 4 points 20 hours ago* (3 children)

    There still is not a path for data center components to be used in your gaming rig. They are not compatible and you can't really adapt something like RAM I would wager. You'd have to tear off the chips and make new boards.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    If a crash dumps hardware on the market, I bet someone will find a way to make use of it. But I don't think it will devalue, local models work and are useful, so if most datacenters closed tomorrow, I bet they'd be able to sell that hardware at decent prices to all sorts of companies.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago*

    It's also HBM not DDR or even GDDR in those GPUs. Good luck finding a consumer board that takes those.

    The used GPGPU (is that still a term?) server market will have a metric fucktonne of supply I suspect.

    Nvidia is already bracing for this. They did a bunch of stock buyback instead of investing that money in anything that could lead to more future sales. 150 billion dollars I believe.

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    [–] 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    my 10 year old ram need no die

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    Dig up that old invoice or receipt if you can since even your ten year old RAM might have a lifetime warranty on it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    If they'll even honor it. No, there are no legal requirements for anything in the US any more.

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  • [–] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    "Lifetime" warranties are for the lifetime of the product (however they define that), not for the lifetime of the owner. There are court cases where a "lifetime" of less than 5 years has been upheld.

    It's one of the most clever doublespeak things most consumers remain unaware of, so they keep doing it.

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    [–] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    What does "double-digit price increase" mean?
    $10 is two digits.
    I imagine it's a percentage increase? But then again, it could be anything from 10% to 99%.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I was thinking of selling my old DDR4 RAM but at this point, I think I'll keep it as a backup in case my current dies for whatever reason between now and the next 10+ years.

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