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Israeli soldiers in Gaza told Haaretz that the army has deliberately fired at Palestinians near aid distribution sites over the past month. Conversations with officers and soldiers reveal that commanders ordered troops to shoot at crowds to drive them away or disperse them, even though it was clear they posed no threat.

"It's a killing field," one soldier said. "Where I was stationed, between one and five people were killed every day. They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars. Then, once the center opens, the shooting stops, and they know they can approach. Our form of communication is gunfire."

The soldier added, "We open fire early in the morning if someone tries to get in line from a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge at them from close range. But there's no danger to the forces." According to him, "I'm not aware of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy, no weapons." He also said the activity in his area of service is referred to as Operation Salted Fish – the name of the Israeli version of the children's game "Red light, green light".

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is why I had such a casual attitude about 7 young Israeli soldiers killed by an IED the other day. Normally, I'd be sad at the loss of seven young lives, all around my son's age, but these people are enthusiastic murderers of innocent civilians, including women and children. I can't feel badly about them being taken out of the murder game.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago

It's hard to feel bad when an invading army doing a genocide gets hurt.

like yhea, a human has died, maybe they were anti war and were there from peer pressure, maybe they would have left and become a massive anti war advocate... but a bigger maybe, maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place doing every was crime known to man and inventing a few new ones.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Gentle reminder that a term of military service is compulsory in Israel.

In essence, wicked old bastards are conscripting kids, filling their heads with xenophobia, and sending those kids to die.

Kids getting blown to pieces is a net-negative for mankind.

If they will not change, the most good these "leaders" can amount to in their brief time on this planet before they go straight to Hell, is to become a feast for the buzzards, preferably sooner rather than later.

(Edit: wording)

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

They still go. They still follow orders. All I need to know.

[–] SectoidLexi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

Bruh if you don't pick prison over child murder you're just a scumbag, this ain't hard

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Important is that these "opening" times during which the IDF doesn't shoot are done like this

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Still maddening we can't post dropsite news links directly here

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Head mod considers it a ~~block~~ blog, simply because footer has substack in it

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

just in case

Damn, they weren't lying, they did have only one box to distribute... /s

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

These people need to be Nuremberged in the worst way.

[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 50 points 3 days ago

This is literally that scene from Schindler's List where the Commandant sits on the balcony and snipes any prisoner below who isn't laboring fast enough. And for years they were saying this was unrealistic and such crass cruelty could not have happened!

https://piped.video/watch?v=N0DqnUk90lo

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Non-paywalled version: https://archive.is/37RtH

This article has some fuckin wild quotes that each by their own should be enough to justify ceasing all trade and cooperation with Israel. I dont think Israel will ever be able to truly understand the depth of its own depravity unless it comes under full occupation like Germany after WW2.

IDF officers told Haaretz that the army does not allow the public in Israel or abroad to see footage of what takes place around the food distribution sites. According to them, the army is satisfied that the GHF's operations have prevented a total collapse of international legitimacy for continuing the war. They believe the IDF has managed to turn Gaza into a "backyard," especially since the war with Iran began.

"Gaza doesn't interest anyone anymore," said a reservist who completed another round of duty in the northern Strip this week. "It's become a place with its own set of rules. The loss of human life means nothing. It's not even an 'unfortunate incident,' like they used to say."

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Getting those orders is one thing.

Acting on them is another.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let’s be real. They enthusiastically follow their orders. They even record themselves committing their war crimes, laughing as they perpetrate them!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's almost like the world can't comprehend that zionism is a fascist, religious nationalist, ideological movement?

[–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

Nah i don't think it is that. I think most people who actually pay attention to whats going on a disgusted by it. Somehow, simply because of WW2 it was made that any criticism regarding Israel is automatically deemed anti-semitic even though thats not the case in 99% of times. They can skate on by, being abhorent human beings simply because a couple generations ago such terrible depraved acts were performed on a large group of peoples that happened to largely be jewish. They've beaten that horse so hard, and its been dead for decades, but one whiff of being called an anti-semite had people worried. Because of the nazis. Now, not only has crying wolf made it so these depraved humans from israel been given carte blanche, for fear of being given the anti-semite label, but nazi'ism and fascism has come back due to the normalising of calling people nazis, either seriously or as a joke.

Really the only way to ensure this shit doesn't happen is to ban all religions that aren't non-theistic in nature. All materialistic, theistic, my god is better than your god, my religion is better than yours die you piece of horse scrotom trash, all that kind of shit needs to be wiped from the human conciousness. If you can tell me, with a straight face, that none of the bullshit caused anywhere in the world is based on theistic religion, I have a rock to sell you that keeps tigers (and bears) out of your neighbourhood.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Zionism is the same kind of Fascism as Nazism - ethno-Fascism - which is based on ethnicity rather than nationality, thus rabidly racist and hence far, far, more depraved than traditional Fascism.

Just compare the actions of Russia in Ukraine and those of Israel in Gaza to see the difference between traditional Fascism and ethno-Fascism: Russians don't think Ukranians are sub-humans, whilst Israeli definitelly think Palestinians are (specifically "human animals" and even "vermin"), hence the scale of the crimes being commited by Israelis is many times larger and more extreme than that of those being commited by Russians - when for a whole military even the toddlers of a different ethnicity are "vermin" there are no boundaries for them when it comes to murdering people from that ethnicity.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

i remember how an IDF was once telling me about how Israel is there most moral army in the world because any soldiers has the duty to ignore unethical orders.... Like basically any soldier in the world, only if they actually did that.

but do they?

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 13 points 3 days ago

This is what our money goes to, lovely isn't it?

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So they’ve turned the world’s largest concentration camp into the world’s largest torture chamber.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Sounds like they're taking notes from squid game.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

~~I'm tired of people saying the victims of the holocaust did this.~~

~~not only a tiny minority of the country survived the holocaust, but those people are marginalised in Israel.~~

sorry, this was meant for another comment

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s always been clear that the Holocaust was a teachable moment. However I never expected the victims to take home precisely these lessons

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm tired of people saying the victims of the holocaust did this.

not only a tiny minority of the country survived the holocaust, but those people are marginalised in Israel.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Indeed.

Israel was created by amongst others Jewish terrorist groups, who at one point even tried to ally with the Nazis.

They're the very opposite of Holocaust Survivors (which is probably why in present day Israel, Holocaust survivors are stigmatized and seen as "weak").

One needs to believe that there's some kind of Jewish Hive-mind (one of the anti-semitic notions imaginable) to think that Israeli Zionists, who share nothing other than etnicity with the survivors of the Holocaust, would have felt the trauma that Holocaust survivors felt.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

Wanted to joke about the Jewish hivemind being about bagels.

but then I realized how bagels are almost an American hew thing, and every Jewish community worldwide is so different and diverse, and the largest entity erasing that Jewish diversity is the state of Israel. paving all Jewish heritage with stolen hummus

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure, on a personal level, that’s true. But the country identifies its roots and legitimacy as based in and on the holocaust. It’s what its government never gets tired of repeating. Worse: ‘never again’ is actively used as the excuse for genocide.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

Imperial power will co-opt, steal, bastardize, and butcher whatever peoples or messages it has to in order to justify its own legitimacy.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

which is coopted propaganda.

Zionism predates the holocaust. although one of the motivations for Zionism were other pogroms.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure. But the state of Israel is a UN-creation right after WW2, with the holocaust as the explicit motivator

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Zionism started way before

that's like saying a movie is created when the producer makes a speech at the premier.

Also, that vote also created the state of Palestine. so I remind everyone that says Israel has a UN mandate that Palestine has the exact same one.

And to think, the country with the biggest military budget on Earth (USA, almost 1 TRILLION annually) actively supports this