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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Jesus literally REFUSED to be dragged into ideological politics of his time (John 6:10-15)

He even defied those who tried to put him to test and force a political statement come from him against the current political leader, the Caesar, by trying to have him a forced position on taxes (Mark 12:13-17)

All this makes sense, as he himself said about himself and his followers that they are not part of this world (John 15:19)

He LITERALLY made his teaching revolve around god's kingdom, not any human ideology (Matthew 6:9, 10)

I mean FUCK, even Satan himself offered him to be the ruler of the whole FUCKING world and he rejected it flat out (John 14:30)

He did care about people, and alleviated the physical suffering of many, but he made clear his and his followers priority should be preaching and teaching God’s word (Mark 1:32-38)

And why wouldn't he, after all, part of his teachings are that all the world governments and ideologies are to be destroyed. (Revelation 16:14) Every. Single. one.

So anyone using his teachings to attack whoever and linking him to your ideology, calling him a representative of brand of collectivism, should get down from any high horse they think they are, it's not doing you or them any favor and they clearly don't know what they are talking about.

Case in point, people talking about a hell existing in the bible when there is none. That's basically all it takes

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 59 seconds ago

He was absolutely not adverse to fucking some shit up when he wasn't happy either. Not big into Forex.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago
[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I would have gone sideways and said "Willem Dafoe"!

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 43 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Jesus was a socialist

This is a reminder there is no such thing as a “Christian” just people who pretend to be so they have an excuse to act unchristian like towards anyone they envy.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a reminder there is no such thing as a “Christian” just people who pretend to be so they have an excuse to act unchristian like towards anyone they envy.

I swear they need to change the name of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy to "No True Christian"

I don’t know about “true Christian”

But no sane grown up believes in the magical Christian story. My opinion is that there is no such thing as a “Christian”

No matter how much they claim to believe.

They only say it to have “righteousness” and the moral high ground when they want to abuse or kill or oppress or steal from someone who is not a “true Christian” like they claim to be.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 14 points 7 hours ago

Jesus was a socialist

[–] Grazed@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I was raised conservative Christian and I lost my faith in university. You're 100% right but I sometimes feel a strong urge to "convert" back but only practice the cool parts. Like I'd one-up christians and quote Jesus' most socialist verses at them. Maybe start a Facebook page about how the NT has been corrupted in this modern day, conspiracy-theorist style, but the hidden message is just Marxism.

I feel like somebody out there has embodied that, and I'd like to give them space to reclaim the word Christian for themself at least.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My father in law is a member of the communist party and was a theology professor at a prestigious university, he's also a catholic and went to seminary (didn't become a priest though). Point is that there are absolutely leftist Christians out there. You can lead by example.

But also keep in mind that there have been people out there spreading these words, the problem is that when they get too influential, they get disappeared or murdered

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Christianity is pretty much not about Christ at all, it's about leveraging him to confer authority over the words of certain people.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You just need to ask yourself why you feel the need to add all the extra baggage of a "god" when you can do and believe all of those things without it?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That is how most new branches of religion start. Instead maybe Christianity in its core is not what modern people think it is. The Bible itself is a collection and not a single written source. Think of it as a foss project that got forked early on, then a few people took parts of these forks and sample it into the versions we know today, which then also got forked with every translation.

So if you decide to do what said you should consider checking other religions such as Islam and see what you like there as well.

Oh I hate all religions you don’t wanna get me derailed

They’re all horrible.

I won’t split hairs and decide if one is worse than another.

They’re all anti human, and intolerant of logic.

“But what about my religion?”

Yeah yours too.

Science or magic.

One gives us vaccines cell phones and space ships

The other gives us anti vaccines, and a place for rapists to hide

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 10 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

no such thing as a “Christian”

Huh?

Another socialist Christian a little more recent than Jesus: you might remember Dr. King. Christianity deserves much more criticism and this is an absolutely correct criticism towards most people who profess to be Christians.

But speaking so absolutely usually means you're wrong. There are plenty of Christians who actually follow Christ and are working to make the world better.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

There are plenty of Christians who actually follow Christ and are working to make the world better.

Well... Maybe not plenty. Some. There really could be more.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He broke the ten commandments tho

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

P sure that was god through Moses, not christ

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[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 hours ago

"Watch me backflip onto this this market table to make space for the MAGA hats" - Jesus 'The Donald' Christ.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 30 points 15 hours ago (13 children)

Remember that the louder the Christian the less Christian they actually are.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

don't care. destroy all religion for the future of humanity.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Will never happen, there's a sucker born every day.

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