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Pretty Easy Choice (europe.pub)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/transmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17869503

I know I'm going against the grain here, I'm obviously no Harris lover, but also I'd prefer to be allowed to continue existing. If that's controversial in leftist spaces then maybe I don't want to spend any more time in leftist spaces.

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[–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“I’m voting for the party that doesn’t actively want to kill me”

“Pfft, classic shitlib take”

I’m tired, boss

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    project 2025 was created in 1980 and we've already enacted over 75% of it so far.

    during that the entire time we managed to thrive despite the considerable impediments and we did it without the democrat's help. in fact: biden used to be one of our most vocal enemies.

    don't let the propaganda scare you: i was there and lived through it and we did well anyways.

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    • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Trans tankies be like:

    They sure have a lot more faith in the Democrats' moral compass than we do.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Who is voting Republican down-ballot over Gaza for this take to function?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it's more the third party voters (which effectively are Republican voters, by taking away Dem votes). And abstainers, which, ditto.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Third party votes and abstainers for the presidency are by no measures 'taking away' votes from anyone.

    It only can be that way if there are zero Republican voters voting third party or abstaining for any reason. We know this isn't true. The Democratic Party's express electoral strategy is to appeal to and attract those voters, ostensibly at a greater return rate than voters they turn off or drive to third parties.

    It's a risky strategy and it failed once before in 2016.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    It would be great if she was actually campaigning on helping those in red states and not just saying well that's their law deal with it

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It would be great if people would help build some enthusiasm for Kamala. Trump wants to round up homeless people in camps. Republicans want to remove protections against discrimination in the workplace for trans people so they end up homeless. This is an easy choice. If you care about anyone vote for Kamala, because we will all be worse off under Trump. edit: typo

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    • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Telling people in danger that their attempts to save themselves are contemptible is nothing but cynical callousness.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yeah, people who see the long list of minorities that would be negatively affected by a Trump presidency and insist that there is no difference between the candidates are telling on themselves: Who gets the presidency would make no difference - for them. And they have no empathy for anybody else.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    it's manipulation at best. we've enacted 75% of project 2025 so far since 1981 and we thrived without republican or democratic help. in fact, biden used to me one of our most vocal enemies and ran for president during that time and we're still here.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I mostly lurk and prefer to not get involved in politics, but GOOD GOD I'M SO GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY. It's so exhausting.

    What sucks is that voting isn't swearing a blood oath that turns you into a slave of neoliberalism and prevents you from doing direct action: you can do both. Voting isn't going to save Palestinians (and it's a bitter pill to swallow, I know), but it's going to save lots of other vulnerable minorities (who never really asked to be born in the imperial core!), and still provide breathing room for direct action that can help Palestine.

    Like... even if you don't care about the safety of trans people, pragmatically speaking it's immensely easier to organize as leftists in a neoliberal regime than it is in a fascist regime. Just look at what happened to the KPD when they proclaimed "first Hitler, then it's our turn". (Yes, the SPD backstabbed them during Weimar - RIP Rosa Luxemburg - but that pales to the Nazis basically rounding them all up and sending them to the gas chambers!) I don't want history to repeat. Please don't let it repeat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    The SPD insisted on voting for the "lesser evil" of Hindenburg to stop Hitler rather than cooperating with the KPD, who they denounced as being just as bad as the Nazis. Hindenburg then proceeded to appoint Hitler as chancellor, which is exactly what allowed him to come to power.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lmao people acting like how trans people are treated is a fraction of what Palestinians are going though. I'm sure if you went to Gaza you'd be voting third party to end the war at all costs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Voting isn't going to end the war. Not voting is also not going to end the war. Stop wasting your time and good will by chastising people for voting strategically. All you're doing is sowing leftist division.

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    • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Libs: Voting is just the start

    Also libs: If you dont blindly support Kamala you're a Russian bot, also how dare you protest it makes me very uncomfortable. Shut up and let us sign this bipartisan legislation with fascists.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    You’re trying to explain liberal behavior with logic. That was your first mistake.

    “A vote for not Harris is a vote for Trump”, lmao. Absolutely laughable. Just like how Biden is the only viable candidate and a vote for Harris is a vote for Trump, right?

    You know what it’s called when you’re not allowed to vote for anyone but one person?

    As if Dems who have enabled the Overton ratchet for the past 50 years will give a shit about trans folk. Because clearly the current Dem admin has taken so much action against anti-trans violence and discrimination.

    The same Dems who are running to the fascists as fast as possible. The same Dems enthusiastically supporting a literal genocide. The same Dems bragging about filling their cabinet with literal republicans. The same Dems who are receiving endorsements from absolute right wing war hawk neoliberal ghouls and bragging about it.

    I guess y’all are just going to prove the leftists were correct again.

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