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And that’s basically it!
Oh hey, look at the meme I made and posted 6 years ago on Reddit, the last time this xenophobic moron was in office. It’s almost like we could have predicted this shit.
But no, I was ‘hyperbolic’ and ‘alarmist’ at the time.
(Sorry for the Reddit link, it was this:)
Title: I’m sure Macron would be very happy to work out travel arrangements.
I could legitimately see this happening, by now. Fox News builds it up for a week, then Trump/Musk make a big spectacle of sending it back and replacing it with a giant statue of Trump.
Don't bring that thought into reality.
You can picture it, can't you. The entire thing covered in shitty gold spray paint. My God, it's becoming so clear now...
Edit: Fun fact, Grok wouldn't create the same image featuring Kamala Harris.
Why is it so low res
Images from the Future are usually not as clear.
Wait until that 20/20 hindsight
Far fewer visionaries emerged in 2020 than those of us with a penchant for puns would have liked 🫤
Fwiw: that you know of
Good point 😁
They'd probably melt it down instead, just to avoid giving it back.
replacing it with a giant statue of Trump.
Made of plastic, made in China
"Welcoming huddled masses" is no longer US policy. Statue of Liberty is "woke propaganda", and US should now welcome getting rid of it. No horribly inappropriate/misplaced Ukraine warmongering justification needed.
wtf I love the French now.
Love you too bro. Now riot
Not just yet... we're waiting for checks notes the government to individually wrong every last one of us directly while not hurting our enemies in any way
I mean not me, My pitchfork is fresh, but I'm not going out until there's a crowd :) Murderbots will be hunting me down in the street.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they'll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they’ll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
Some programming wizard needs to secretly program empathy into these
secretly program
I fear Asimov's three rules are not going to make it into the GOP Murderbots.
Give it back to you? How about you pay repairations to Haiti or Algeria or any of your other former colonies before you act like you're worthy of the Mother of Exiles?
To whom? Macron, who refuses to respect the will of the voters, and continues to elevate the far right in France?
Yeah. Macron is extremely bad with domestic politics which is why the French far-right keeps gaining ground. I tell the so-called blue MAGA that if Americans could articulate their thoughts away from the cringey false dichotomy of "blue, liberal Democrats" versus "red, conservative Republicans", the Democratic party is at best a neoliberal centre-right party who still value private property and free market, however socially progressive they are. Hence, as Macron and the Democratic party demonstrated, liberals will always side with fascists when it comes to it, instead of actually curb stomping the far-right for good.
But since we are talking about how awful Macron's domestic policies are, the opposite side is Macron being inversely good in foreign policies. He had been proven correct searching for strategic autonomy, and able to stand up to the bullying tactics of both Trump and Putin. Someone in Reddit mentioned Macron is probably easily bored with local politics. I have to agree and I am exactly the same. I prefer international news and politics over local; because the latter is like keeping up with school gossip with too many white noise. And the details of the story change every damn time. Meanwhile, international politics typically settles over a bit quickly and you get the fuller picture as a result. Besides, I think if you follow international news and politics more, you see the entire forest than just a tree and thus you could easily see solutions to local problems by applying what other nations are doing right.
Occam’s Razor: It’s not that Macron is a domestic right winger who happens to be correct on international politics. It’s that your beliefs are left domestically, but you’re supporting right-wing foreign policy.
Macron is centrist at best, who is socially progressive but economically right, in which the latter is only feeding the right.
He had been advocating for EU army since Trump's first term. I was indifferent or at best opposed to it because, like most people, nobody thought Trump is crazy enough to threaten to pull out of NATO, and there was no war in Ukraine. Then now with Trump 2.0, him pulling out from more international obligations, and the invasion of Ukraine happening at the same time, I can see why re-arming is a better course. I am still not a fan of an EU army, but I am sympathetic to the sentiment.
Also, it is not "right wing" to allow rearmament. There are right wingers who are isolationists, especially those with ties of varying degrees to Kremlin and don't see Putin as a problem. Sure, there are even left wing isolationists.
Right, so you’re a NATO supporter. As I said, you’re rightwing on foreign policy.
I don't support NATO either. But is as if there are no left leaning supporter for international military alliance lol. I don't know what your smoking, but no thanks.
So you don’t think you’re rightwing, but you think there should be a massive international military alliance 🤦🏻♂️
Macron's foreign policy isn't left or right or centre it's French. It's actually quite exceptional for a nation's foreign policy, at least in its core aspects, the steady lines, doctrine and long-term strategy, to be partisan. France is all about strategic autonomy, and to make that more affordable they're pushing for European strategic autonomy, hence the constant heavily anti-Atlanticist streak.
And that applies to the US too, btw: Biden waged a trade war against the EU with the inflation reduction act. Tactics might differ, crassness differs, the core elements? Exactly the same.
Yes, it’s right wing everywhere. That’s because capitalism requires constant aggression to gain access to new markets and resources to exploit. So it has spread like a virus. And if a country doesn’t comply with right wing global policies, they’re overthrown by right wing capitalists.
Why don’t you ask the people in French colonies if they think French foreign policy is right wing?
As to extractive capitalism: What part about "strategic autonomy" do you not understand. How can you be autonomous if you're reliant on extractive exploitation. Also, former colonies. Also, ask Mali whether they're faring better under Russia's thumb. France is not in the business of forcing itself on countries if they're hell-bent on making idiotic mistakes. The offer was there to help Mali keep out Islamists and extractive capitalism, what did the Junta do? Invite Wagner over so they can join in massacring the civilian population.
France does have some homework to do regarding its colonial past, big and glaring one being the Haiti debt, but you know what you sound like? Like an ANC politician willing to blame your country's issues on anything but your own corruption. "Oh no it is the colonisers who make us embezzle our people's wealth".
France just had to be forced out of African colonial holdings within the past year, and they sabotaged infrastructure on their way out.
I'm curious why you're not giving specifics. Maybe because it's part of the Russian colonial programme? France left, willingly, when those states withdrew their invitation. They didn't force themselves in in the first place, they were there to fight Boko Haram and like ilk. The states had some reservations "The French are going to do all the fighting without developing our own military capabilities so afterwards we'll still be vulnerable". Germany said "yep we'll expect the same that's how they roll" so Germany went in together with the French, specifically doing training. Both left together once uninvited.
And don't tell me they should've left bases etc. for Wagner to use.
I'm curious: Is Russia currently involved in an imperialist, genocidal conquest of Ukraine? Yes or no. Once that's out of the way we can start talking about Africa.
...and don't fucking even begin talking about Uranium. Noone needs North African Uranium, Australia has everyone covered for millennia to come.
Ahh. So now the right wing foreign policy is justified, and it’s Chad’s fault. LoL.
Does your script not cover Africa? Is that why you need to deflect to another place entirely?
Chad, as in the country, no. Chad, as in the powers that be in Chad selling it out to foreign interest, yes, they're very much at fault. The Déby dynasty (I guess that's how it's going to be now) is better than Habré but come on none of them are worth even a single clap of applause.
Overall, that's some real neo-colonial, infantilising, BS from you, there, "Oh these poor undeveloped countries can't make decisions for themselves, they're at the whim of foreign influence, they have no agency". That's like 1/1000th of a step away from "we should invade and rule for them because they can't".
Does your script not cover Africa? Is that why you need to deflect to another place entirely?
No, Tovarish Vatnov. That is not the reason.
It’s the opposite of infantilizing. I greatly admire the people of Chad for kicking out their colonizers. I’m not surprised the French engaged in sabotage on their way out.
There was no kicking anyone out. The government asked France to leave, and France left. That's not a kick.
Still no condemnation of Russian imperial aggression. You know just because you're not using your lemmygrad main doesn't mean that you're not obvious AF.
Flipping over the table on your way out does not signal a cordial exit nor amicable split.
I push back against NATO propaganda on here all the time. It’s just not relevant to this discussion. Check the modlog, and you’ll see plenty of my pushback. But if you want to engage with that part of your script, do it in the relevant discussions.
Flipping over the table on your way out does not signal a cordial exit nor amicable split.
Don't flatter yourself. I do not fraternalise with imperialists, campist, non-campist, left, right, middle, doesn't matter.
I was referring to the French military sabotaging infrastructure.
And I'm referring to you consistently refusing to denounce imperialist aggression.
The French (partly) dismantled their own bases, their own military infrastructure. Which is to be expected during a withdrawl, the rest has been transferred. Leaving when asked to is not an act of imperialism or colonialism, and neither is taking your stuff with you.
If, for example, Russia were to withdraw from Ukraine and take all its tanks with them, that would not be an act of imperialism. Them staying, OTOH, is an act of imperialism: The have not been invited. You still have to denounce Russian imperialism.
Did I already mention that you yet have to denounce Russian imperialism? You might want to do that if you want to have a conversation with the grown ups.
You’re working off a very limited script.
They can buy it from us
Two dosen eggs, handdriven air delivery. okay?
Maybe trade it for all of Canada
We're not interested.
You are just asking for tariffs then
Give up your sovereignty or else!
(This is a joke if you didn't realize)