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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 166 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I still cannot believe how wrong I was about John Fetterman.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was different before his stroke. There are multiple studies that correlate frontal and midline lesions in the brain with right-wing authoritarianism.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2020.0137

https://www.ibroneuroscience.org/article/S0306-4522(25)00304-5/fulltext

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I guess but I feel like supporting Gaza genocide isn’t something you just stroke into.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know enough about Fetterman's past to make a judgement on how his stroke affected him, but you totally could. Brain damage can fundamentally change who you are as a person on every level, from memory to logic, or even spirituality. It can change or entirely destroy your ability to feel empathy, damping some emotions while amping up others. Strokes that fundamentally change personality like that are rare, but certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

[–] Phunter@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a famous case of a guy who got a railroad spike blown through his frontal lobe and he basically became a huge asshole.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago

Phineas Gage if anyone wants to look the case up. Classic psychology and neurology tale.

Of course this happened before modern scientific standards and procedures were mainstream, so take everything with a grain of salt.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually, that’s kinda what these neuroscientists are finding happens.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Strokes can break your brain and fundamentally change your personality and values. Idk if that actually happened here or if he was always actually a piece of shit. It doesn't matter ultimately. He's a shithead now.

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[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

I say this as someone with a lot of experience diagnosing and treating strokes....

You'd be surprised how cruel and violent some people can become after them.

I've seen the sweetest little grandma turn into a full on support for genocide nazi after one. More than once.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In our hate for Dr Oz, we accidentally raised up a separate monster.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Turns out both options were horrible monsters. As is tradition.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes the lesser evil is still really evil.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 1 week ago

I mean, I thought he was the best option during the primary, that was definitely wrong. And not everything can be blamed on the stroke.

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[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

You and me both sister

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

the alternative wouldve been MEMHET oz, but oz is in a position to do more harm than fetterman right now, it was a lose lose situation.

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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Fuck you, got mine."

  • those guys
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every "conservative" is a closet narcissist. The only difference is they now feel comfortable tearing the mask off and no longer hiding behind the presumption they possess empathy or want what's best for other people.

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[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ICE is a bunch of cowards. If they were really removing violent and scary undocumented immigrants who break the law and don't pay taxes, you'd hear about more shootouts with ICE. Instead, it's farmers and young families who are working, or their kids. It's such a pity such these cowards got such a huge funding bump.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck ICE. The people that sign up for that sham of an organization peaked in high school and are mad at the world because of their irrelevance. Nobody loves or cares for these people. They exist to inflict pain to fill a void where a personality, ambitions, and empathy should be. They have nothing to give or contribute to the world.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

ICE is a bunch of cowards.

Like all fascists.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

people say he changed for the worse after his stroke, but it seems like he was always a bad politician and a teensy beensy bit of a freak who chased a black jogger with a shotgun.

so i feel its less that he turned bad and more like he got worse

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know someone's no longer talking in good faith when they use words like "inappropriate and outrageous" to describe the suggestion of abolishing a department that didn't exist 25 years ago. This is someone consciously and openly attempting to shift the Overton Window so that they don't keep getting called on to defend the indefensible.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's one of those candidates that run as Democrat then switch after being elected.

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 39 points 1 week ago

Jesus, John -- quit being a senator and just go record podcasts in your truck for a living.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Abolish fetterman, he's a lunatic and pathological liar. He only won his seat cause he ran a fake campaign as a Democrat then dramatically pulled a u turn on us.

Also he dresses like a slob, grow up fAtterman

[–] AnIntenseMoist@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm 100% with ya until the dressing part. I don't care how people dress as long as they get the job done (see Zelensky). Now, he is a fuckwad for running on one platform and flipping to the other, but that's unrelated to his dress code. I remember thinking he was a good one for not giving a shit about appearances and only about making people's lives better.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Zelensky's outfit is very deliberate. Before the war he was clean shaven and wearing full suits like any other national leader. His beard is short, but groomed, and he typically wears fatigues or hoodies. In either outfit, his clothes are in excellent condition. It's a good balance between looking professional and showing his people that he's right there with them.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think he ran a fake campaign, I think he had a stroke and it changed his personality. We don't realize how much our brains create who we are.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah his wife divorced him I think cause he changed so much

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[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Also he was running against fucking Dr. Oz

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gisele should primary him.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wish there was a 25th amendment for senators. This dude’s brain is melting out his ears

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Nah, I think the whole progressive thing was his wife’s influence.

I’ve met too many assholes from York county who are just like him.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously fuck John Fetterman. What a bag of turds.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Alex Jones just had a caller that was asking how to get his undocumented wife on the list of the “good ones.”

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

He forgor 💀

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Omg I would hate to be inappropriate and outrageous!!!

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fetterman is what Blue No Matter Who brought us.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure its his cognitive decline secondary to his stroke.

Your brain stops working and you become republican.

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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So we should have let the Republican win?

How the fuck are we still this stupid?

It's the same dumb ass "Democrats aren't doing enough for Palestine, so I'm not voting for them" bullshit even after we've seen time and time again how that works out.

Take a look around at your actual options. Those are the choices. Not some mythical candid in your head. They have to be on the actual fucking ballot and not just in your dreams.

Also, Fuck Fetterman. He's a selfish, backstabbing piece of shit. This isn't about defending him. It was still the least shitty choice. That's where we are.

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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He run against a person that calls itself doctor Oz. Do you think that ghoul would be better in any way whatsoever?

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If his wife really is an immigrant someone should report that. Maybe a lot. Just so ice has all the info.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It says the wife "WAS" undocumented. I don't care enough to look up what happened there.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

She spent 15 years here illegally after overstaying a visa. As a side note, 40% of people here illegally overstayed visas and did not cross a border by illegal means.

https://www.bloomberglinea.com/english/gisele-fetterman-spotlights-her-history-as-undocumented-migrant/

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One more stroke & he’s back as a progressive.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Monkey Paw:

He becomes so progressive, he's now support giving voting rights to AI.

Yes, each instance of Siri, each instance of Gemini, all get a vote.

And now Tim Apple becomes POTUS. (Because the US has the biggest iPhone Marketshare)

🫠

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I thought if you married someone they get a green card?

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago

At this point, I don't think having a green card matters anymore.

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