this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2025
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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"I can't afford a tablet" is such a bullshit excuse. Simple tablets are dirt cheap. Also, pen and paper exist and you have a phone with a camera.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Literally. I make and teach art, and everything starts with a tool that will leave a mark on a surface. Tablets are a step removed from that, but "genAI" isn't even close.

[–] Foxfire@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Honestly if you have a tablet for long enough, the marks on the surface become pretty evident. Before my cheap huion tablet of several years finally gave out, parts of it felt like drawing on top of a vinyl record because the marks were so numerous and dug through the surface. In a way it was pretty cool to think about the amalgamation of all the strokes I ever used to create so many different things, all overlayed on top of one another onto a single "page."

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 6 days ago

Very true 😄 Maybe somebody should make an exhibition of worn, dented and scratched tablets, focusing on those accumulated marks that were never intended as art?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago

Everyone feels entitled to "being able" to do things just because AI can do it for them instead of just accepting that maybe they don't have the skills or patience necessary to become good at something...

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 25 points 6 days ago

So why should I care what you think of me?

Idk, but it seems that he really does care considering the fact that he won’t shut up about it

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Using ai ethically means asking it nicely to not plagiarize people’s content. It will, but you asked it not to.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How the hell does using a drawing tablet correspond in any way, shape or form to using a generative "AI" that leeches off actual artists' skill, talent and labour?

No, don't try to argue against that question. Internalise it, and understand it.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The argument is that they are both simply tools. It's completely wrong, but that's what it is.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 11 points 6 days ago

I understand the point of the argument, but as you say — it's a false premise because only one of them is an art tool. The other is a faulty clip art machine that literally steals from artists.

[–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think the argument is that some people can't afford a nice drawing tablet or drawing supplies, so all they have is a mouse that is "impossible" to draw with, and AI allows them to... "create". source: bottom-left post in the image

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 8 points 6 days ago

Even before generative AI I saw these arguments in music production that they had to pirate stuff because they couldn’t afford Serum/Abelton Live etc.

Never mind that there have been free digital music tools for decades now. Maybe a little clunkier but money has never been a barrier towards creating art.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you can't afford a box of crayons and some paper, how the hell could you afford a computer?

Edit: by "you", I'm of course referring to people who would make the argument. I know your reply wasn't actually making the argument.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 8 points 6 days ago

Stick + lighter + stone surface = big dragon mommy milkers, just fine.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 6 days ago

The irony of an AI chud telling an artist to get a life.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

Nothing new here has been said except that enginetrap is gonna be at FWA. I'm exciteeeeeddddd. I fucking love their art.