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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Honestly, for at home personal use, it's better than any on device password manager. It's not hackable. Someone has to break into your home and steal it. For an office environment though....worst way to handle it after sticky notes.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually super useful for old people, who sometimes like to "accidentally log off" and stuff.

[–] FoD@startrek.website 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Or Microsoft who randomly needs to verify someone's identity before they can log into.tgeir computer but the user doesn't have a smart phone. So they need to call someone trusted to have them log into their email from a different computer just to get the code so the user can log into their computer.

But that also means they didn't have access to any saved passwords so a notebook helps.

I really should put Linux on her machine but then I have to show her how to do that too. It's a lose-lose so I keep it the same.

I miss local accounts.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

You can still use local accounts with Windows 11. It's just a bit fiddley. If you use Rufus to make your boot usb, there's a bunch of deshitification options you can do.

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I save all my passwords in a README.txt file

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 hours ago

That's how they get you, i put mine in a DONTREADME.txt file.

[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 7 points 9 hours ago

Still waiting for passkey support

[–] tym@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This isn't the flex you think it is, OP. 99% of cybercriminals are also cowards. Physical security of ANY kind beats even the best password managers.

If you don't know what lattice-based encryption is and how to purchase it through NordVPN, start reading up because encryption as we know it isn't long for this world. Pretty sure they already dragged their feet too long on Bitcoin's algorithm but the day cracking common ciphers is within the grasp of quantum clusters is the day we all become Amish. Plan accordingly!

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Can't wait to hand write my 32-bit passwords.

[–] cralex@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

My handwriting comes with free encryption at rest. Even I might not be able to read it.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

You haven't changed your password for 30 days. Reset it now.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

My understanding is that quantum computing has been taken into account for some modern cryptography. And that memory-hard cryptography basically defeats quantum computing solutions. There are a few methods, but one of them is just very long keys, it's trivial to make a cryptographic key longer.

So sure, you could defeat some of that with a machine operating with 1024k entangled qbits, (which is... oh man... not an easy task), in which case, wow, congratulations. But what if I increase my key length to 100k? It might take an extra 3 seconds to check the key and log in, but it'll take an extra 25 years for quantum computing to catch up.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Won't longer key lengths increase the overhead for everything?

[–] procrastitron@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Yes and No.

Yes, everything increases in difficulty but the increases in difficulty are asymmetrical.

The difficulty of reversing a computation (e.g. reversing a hash or decrypting an encrypted message) grows much faster than just performing the computation (e.g. hashing a message or encrypting one).

That’s the basis for encryption to begin with.

It’s also why increasing the size of the problem (e.g. the size of the hash or the size of a private key) makes it harder to crack.

The threat posed by quantum computing is that it might be feasible to reverse much larger computations than it previously was. The caveat on that, however is that they have a hard limit of what problems they can solve based on the number of qbits they have.

So for example, let’s say you use RSA for encryption and someone builds a 1024 qbit quantum computer. All you have to do is increase your key size so that it would require 1025 qbits to crack, and then that quantum computer wouldn’t provide an attacker any benefit at all.

(Of course, they’d still be able to read your old messages, but that’s also a fundamental principle of cryptography; it only protects you for a period of time)

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 34 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So far the combined might of the Russian, Chinese, American and North Korean hacking teams have been unable to crack the post-it note on my desk.

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Add an extra layer of security by putting it in an envelope and stapling it to the bottom of your desk

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

now they know where to look.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If they're in my apartment I've already got bigger problems.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 9 hours ago

You didn't know they were coming, didn't tidy up, and now you feel awkward. The struggle is real.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

PSA: Home use? That's probably okay. Work use? If you're in-office, this is a ticking time-bomb that can get you fired, one way or another. Use the company 1password or whatever you have access to, please. Thank you.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 9 hours ago

InfoSec likes nothing more than for you to tell them not to worry because you write all your passwords down and only read emails after you've printed them. 100% secure.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

In my office I have a list that says passwords all nonsens and just as a decoy. I have a system that I use for rotation woth a visual reminder (by association, not directly) somwhere in my office

[–] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 24 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

we might laugh at this but I think this is useful. Even though I wouldn't use something like this and I'd just use a regular dedicated blank notebook and my password manager, it can be useful to people who have problems with computers and can't handle a password manager, yet may give pages with good templates to show how to record sensitive information.

[–] win95@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Exactly this is the reason why I gifted it to someone. I'm already glad they don't use 1 password for every website.

I have hundreds of logins, the convenience of a password manager is just too nice.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Self hosted and air gapped.

[–] dangercake@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The indexing and search need improvement.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] zyberteq@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

For a lot of people at 60+, writing things down is easier and safer. It will also help anyone that would need to troubleshoot or in the event of death in a very simple way.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

* for the tech inclined

Managing sync between mobile and desktop is a bit more complicated than average consumers have the patience for (it’s really not very complicated, average consumers are just impatient)

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Is it AI powered tho?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I see no issue with this, especially for an elderly person, for example, to keep at home. The only way this will get "breached", is if someone breaks into her home. At that point, the password book is the least of her concerns anyway. In fact, from a cyber security point of view, this is brilliant if kept in a safe place, such as a locked safety box. You can't really remotely hack a physical book.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dropped my book and now debt collectors are after me. 0/5 would not recommend.

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I should get this for my dad, he recently got a new computer at best buy and the geek squad told him his files were all in the cloud and sent him home. Guess who got a call the next day because "all my passwords are in a word document in some fucking cloud". Yeah that was a fun day spent setting up his computer while listening to his rant about the geek squad and "the fucking cloud".... thanks geek squad....

[–] HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As a software engineer who values humanity has done a good bit of work with "the cloud", i think your dad has the right set of feelings towards the cloud. That fucking cloud can go get bent

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh I agree but it would be nice if he'd have listened to me years ago and started using a password manager at least. I know he'll never go full self hosting, but come on at least use Bitwarden!

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 191 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Here's the thing .. as crazy as a notebook with passwords sounds, it's not accessible to someone across the internet.

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