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[–] 383 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I hate when people post hyperpartisan reporting because it makes me do homework. In this case, you made me listen to almost an hour of a three hour podcast with three techbros chatting about techbro crap in techbro ways. You owe me years of life.

Anyway, so the conspicuously missing context here is he's asked if they will let go of the subscription model and go after an ad business model instead and he responds "hopefully not" and clarifies that he thinks the AI differentiator from Google search is that it doesn't feed people ads.

He then transitions into saying that you'd need a super hyperspecialized profile for it to make sense and then maybe it could work but they haven't figured out long term memory well enough for that, which is when he talks about why they'd want to have a browser to build that hyperspecialized profile.

This is my least favorite type of misinfo, too, because he's actually kinda saying what they say he's saying, just out of context. But more importantly, because he says some other shit that is more outrageous, too. For example, when explaining why he thinks the subscription business will grow more than the ad business the way he puts it is that "people see it as hiring someone", so they're more willing to spend, and he ponders "how much do people pay for personal assistants and assistant managers and nannies?" and suggests that they'll provide similar services for cheaper to people who can't afford human help.

Which may not be as clickbaity and I get he finds it positive-on-the-aggregate, but is certainly some cyberpunk dystopia stuff that didn't need the out of context quoting to be a thing.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Thank you!

    There is an implication, though, that they intend to collect as much data as possible regardless of which model they use? And in the article, he isn't selling any data, I think. Any mention of that?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    To be clear, they ARE building an AI-forward browser and he is very plain about collecting a ton of user info. The way it's presented in context is that they intend to plug it in to their assistant/agent thing and surface relevant stuff to you on searches (which is the potential ad opportunity the article quotes as if it was the sole goal). But yeah, the implication is that they are collecting data regardless, even if the user profile ends up being used to cater AI responses to you specifically, to train models or whatever.

    Hearing the guy talk about it I get the impression that he envisions an Apple-like ecosystem where they're constantly ingesting data and you're paying them to have their AI services act as a personal assistant and handle purchases and booking for you directly and so on, on top of anwering queries.

    I would rather clip my toenails with a rusty chainsaw, myself, but that seems to be the idea.

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    [–] 126 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    Why would I use such a browser?

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    The amount of folks I see use Opera GX "gaming browser" because some influencer said so...

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    What the fuck is a gaming browser. Browsers show web pages.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It downloads RAM for you, sells your browsing data to major gaming companies, helps you stay on top of your Twitch subs by disabling the ability to block web notifications.

    You know, a gaming browser.

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Srinivas believes that Perplexity’s browser users will be fine with such tracking because the ads should be more relevant to them.

    Believes it, or is just spinning it that way?

    You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I'd immediately not want it any more.

    Enough already.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I’d immediately not want it any more.

    Depends, if it is an ad for an orbital laser that targets marketing executives it might work on me.

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago

    I appreciate him saying it upfront. Makes it easy to stay away from all of their products.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s like a cigarette brand marketing themselves as the most cancer-causing.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago

    This is really good information, now I know to avoid their browser like the plague.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    You grossly underestimate how much some people truly love the idea of highly personalized ads. People who believe they are the best possible outcome and cannot fathom why anyone would have any problem with them at all. That's who you are asking to dogfood this product, and they would and would find no issues with it.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago

    Where is the hacktivism when you need it? These companies need to be gutted from the inside out.

    Begin, the AI wars have.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think I read somewhere they want to buy Chrome from Google if they are forced to sell. So not many changes, just switching owners who ultimately do the same thing.

    i’m not a Chrome user, so screw both google and perplexity.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In other news, Perplexity has signed a deal with Motorola to have the browser preinstalled on their phones.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    And people would voluntarily use this browser ....why?

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Wow! I've always wanted a browser that would track everything about me! /s

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Do all these dickheads go to a school to learn the same specific hand gestures?

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    These fuckers are just so delusional and out of touch with reality. Personalized ads my ass. We've been promised those for decades but pretty much all the ads I see on YouTube are from major retail chains with precisely zero relevance to me. They will show the ads of whoever pays for them. Your personal preferences are only relevant when it comes to targeting you with political propaganda.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I don't fucking want personalized ads no matter how relevant they are to me. I only have so much money to buy stupid materialistic bullshit and once that's gone all an ad can do is make me want something I can't have. Ads are just trying to make you discontent.

    They just want you to spend more money in a failed attempt to be happier adding complexity to my life when I'd rather just be content with simplicity. And they work really fucking well on my wife. I automatically distrust anything someone is paying money to show me.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Oh yeah I'm definitely going to use that. He's a marketing genius.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Oh, time to stop using any perplexity products

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 2 years ago

    It's a three-pronged attack: Subliminal, liminal, and super-liminal

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    What a stupid name for a company.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Can't sell reams and reams of customer data if you don't have any customers.

    tapforehead.jpg

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Chrome does that already anyway.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Haha..I can see this guy saying out loud to his friends..."and while everyone else is moving towards privacy I'll do the exact opposite, but to the extreme. Don't look at me like that Kyle, I've already sold my soul. We're gonna be so rich."

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    The selling point is that our product gives you AIDS, for free!

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