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[Opinion] Windows isn't an OS, it's a bad habit that wants to become an addiction (www.theregister.com)
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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Windows 11 isn't even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.

I think MS shot itself in the foot by doing the whole "we'll just iterate on this one forever" pivot to data gathering thing. At least in the good old days of Windows Me they could point at the next refresh as a clean break, even if it wasn't.

I ran Windows Me for maybe a year, by the way. Mostly out of morbid curiosity. It wasn't even that bad, as I remember it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Windows 11 isn't even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.

In terms of spyware and enshittification it sure as Hell is!

And that's the measure that matters here: not mistakes, but deliberate abuse of the user.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows 10 is also a privacy nightmare and also has Edge, One drive and ads.

Windows 11 has some nice features and you can use Group Policy to clean it up a bit.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

This is very true. There is a very weird endorsement of Windows 10 from the Linux community I do not align with at all. It's basically the exact same thing.

Especially since a lot of the less palatable features have been patched in backwards fairly dilligently. I use both routinely and there is little functional difference.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself. I'd rather take spyware and enshittification than whatever Windows 8 was.

I can get rid of the spyware and I was never going to use copilot anyway. Vista was Vista all the way through.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point, Windows itself is the Spyware. Forced cloud Accounts, AI Features embedded so deeply into the windows core that you can not longer remove it.

The only intro get rid of it is installing Linux or buying a mac

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

A Mac? To avoid "forced cloud accounts and embedded AI features"?

MS is out here pointing at Apple and going "I learned it from you, dad!" when it comes to those.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Shocking to see a person always defending windows and hating Linux saying this. Shocking!

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ME was the last version of windows with a true DOS mode with native network support. That was a big deal for LAN gamers at the time

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Look, I was moving over from 98 and had been messing with 2000. When it came to choosing between constant blue screens or zero software compatibility it was a three way tie.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

I think in terms of damage 11 is up there since it won't work on systems without TPMs, but 10 is also approaching EOS, so an ocean of machines are about to become ewaste or malware vectors.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's interesting to see something as mainstream as The Register seriously suggest folks start ditching Windows and their preferred alternative seems to be Linux. Perhaps the year of the Linux Desktop won't forever be "next year".

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 month ago

Does it matter though? Just use what you want to use.

[–] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's literally an operating system

[–] wendigo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

yeah… you can hate it all you want but it is still an OS

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m paying Microsoft $9 a month for something and I can’t find out what and can’t cancel it. I’m going to have to nuke my credit card to get it to stop and I don’t even know if that’ll work.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sounds like a forgotten minecraft realms host

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh shit that’s helpful thank you, might be Minecraft I tried to introduce to my kid years ago or something like that? I’ll check thank you

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm invested. Was it the realms host?

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Aye forgot to check yet, thank you for reminding me! ( May Day holidays here) I’ll report back soon. :-)

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows might be a habit, but Microsoft is doing a pretty good job in breaking this habit. Many rather jump ship than make the move to Windows 11.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Windows 11 is better than Windows 10 from my experience

It has lots of Microsoft induced pain but it also has a Terminal and good support for modern stuff.

[–] AsslessChaps@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago

According to physiology, a bad habit becomes an addiction when it negatively impacts your life.

It’s already an addiction.

[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Given the number of windows machines that exist, isn't it already an addiction?

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Windows is doing its best to shake me off. It keeps reminding me that it's ditching Win 10 and I'd better upgrade. Except I won't, because my (perfectly good) computer isn't up to spec for 11. So in effect it's telling me that I'd better hurry up and decide on a Linux distro, tick tock.