It's almost as though there's massive contradictions in conservative ideology.
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Police States are expensive.
everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is bullshit in case you haven't noticed
he did say to his supporters," i dont care about you, just your votes"
It’s the golfing. And the grifting, that too.
Edit: also, flights to deport citizens to gulags.
It's also that cutting doesn't necessarily lead to spending less. I can cut 50 dollars on lunch, but then I end up real hungry, get fired and can't resist a honey bun from the vending machine.
Its not even that.
It is throwing away your jacket because you don't want to go out for lunch in the middle of the day. And then realizing you still need that jacket to get to and from work and having to buy a new one. And THEN buying lunch anyway because you are hungry.
A few articles have done a great job of documenting it but it boils down to the problem being the fundamental argument of WHY they are doing this. Officially their stance is to move fast, break things, and then repair what they actually needed. Except those repairs cost a LOT of time and money.
And... to add on to the brutally beaten metaphor: It also costs money to get rid ofy our old jacket because you can't just throw it in the trash. You have to drive down to a good will to drop it off. Because government employees have PTO that needs to be paid out and so forth.
It is absolutely incredible that the only thing that outweighs their malice is their gross incompetence, which for better or worse may be our saving grace in undoing this mess
Any articles you'd recommend?
Trump: "They get PTO? Don't bother paying them, it is money better spent on visiting the Olympics." (Millions of dollars later, he leaves within 30 minutes of entering the stadium.) "So dull, those so-called foreign women throwing balls. Arrest them, they clearly are men in drag."
...As ever, my well of sarcasm has become dryer than a desert. You can throw just about anything malicious or stupid at the wall, and it would be a plausible scenario with this regime. :(
But what if you make a department of Honey Bun Efficiency? There is surely a simple solution for your fiscal crisis.
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I mean we were deporting people at higher numbers than Trump has for as long as I know. Trump's just spending more money to deport less. Some might call it horrible money management skills.
And I’m sure he’s paying El Salvador, and for all these flights, and then for creating and distributing all of these propaganda videos and Kristi Noem tv commercials. Have to make a big spectacle about it. That’s not cheap.
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DOGE was never about cutting spending and I hate when the media frames it that way. I don’t know what they teach in journalism school but pretending to not know what time it is has to be a required course. It’s like when they use “free speech absolutist” (even ironically) to describe Elon Musk. He was never that and if you believed it and are disappointed, I hope you were just not paying attention. Motherfucker was being sued for discrimination and promising flight attendants horses to get his dick sucked and people act like he betrayed his formerly-held values.
I don’t know what they teach in journalism school
It's not what they don't teach. It's that what they do teach is immediately and unobjectionally discarded by the oligarch paying their salary.
If something doesn't benefit the ownership or the ideals promoted by the ownership, it won't be published. If it's in opposition to the ownership or their ability to retain wealth and power, the journalists behind it won't be employed any longer. Outside of publicly-funded or independent journalism, journalistic integrity and unbiased reporting are practically dead.
This is what happens when news and media are consolidated into a few large conglomerates owned by a wealthy few.
the MSM are all owned by conservative, and you can see why they are reporting this way, just not to offend trump and give him as much air-time as possible.
Are you talking about this article specifically? It seems like this article is taking the promise Trump made and following all the dollars to prove exactly how that promise was bullshit. This seems like journalism at work.
No. Accounting for it all is actual journalism. Pretending they’re trying to save money when they’re openly trying to replace professionals with loyalists is journalistic malpractice.
If you read this article and thought, “journalistic malpractice”, I think you gotta reset your understanding of what journalism is. They can’t just say “oh, this smells like bullshit so we’re going to write articles about how it’s bullshit”. If that’s what they did, then there is no difference between journalism and lemmy comments.
They have to actually research the facts surrounding the claims like a scientist would. Start from the assumption that what they’re saying is true, then follow the numbers to come to a conclusion. Now the conclusion is not based some feeling, it is based on actual data.
We can now say not only did it smell like bullshit, but thanks to these journalists we can identify exactly how it is bullshit.
Theyre saying that for the past six months every single news station and paper has been daily uploading stories about "doge cuts" and talking about how much musk was promising to reduce the budget and saying that it was all legitimate and exactly as they claimed. That's what they're pissed about.
This is the FIRST article to actually say "what if he's actually full of shit? What if we looked into it and counted the money? Oh, turns out he's full of shit and doing the opposite of reducing the budget, here's what it actually cost."
It is fucking April 30th. It's been 100 days, they've spent 200 billion more dollars than normal, and this is the only report I've seen since the election questioning whether doge is a legitimate government office with the goals it claims. Thats what the poster is mad about. Not the one article doing journalism. The 7 million articles since October last year talking about "musk's doge plans to cut 2 trillion from the deficit" that were literally propaganda.
Maybe. I was confused by their last comment that in no way acknowledged the point I made. This specific article is good journalism. But the commenter didn’t not acknowledge that.
The first bit where they said "accounting for it all is real journalism" was in reference to the posted article.
The original original comment didn't say anything about the posted article but was lambasting the fact that most of the other publications don't actually investigate the claims being made and instead just broadcast the claims as if they are legitimate on their face. Once the article we're commenting under was brought up they agreed that the journalism there was good.
I had to go all the way to the top comment in the chain to figure out which reply you were talking about but yeah they agreed with you on the merits of this story and gave props
Believe it or not, all of it was spent on golf!
I saw the story of a 60 mil fighter jet falling off a aircraft carrier. Kind of odd to think that that one incident will counteract my entire life's tax contribution multiple times over. Glad I'm making a difference guys.
What makes you think that's an uncommon event? The US military is a grift. They trash equipment under every administrstion to drive up income for shareholders of military contractors
Honestly I'd rather money be wasted on golf than dismantling the entire US
Unfortunately he seems very capable of multitasking in that regard
golf is where most "behind the scenes business deals go on though"
That is what they say.
Dismantling? All he's done is progress a Police State.
What we want is actual dismantling.
Por que no los dos
p.s. Pls don't deport me for speaking g Spanish
Oh no, I totally believe it
Someone said, “I rather him go golfing with our money than going to foreign aid.” Wtf?
Lots of Americans are hateful
whoa. drumpf not doing what he promised? SAY IT ISN'T SO!
Him doing what he says he will has been the problem
Par for the Course (pun intended) when republicans take control. Anything they whine about is projection; From national debt to sex crimes to censorship. Scream loud enough so when you begin doing it you can claim that your opponents have done it for forever and a day after the inevitable pushback. These are not creative people.
Yeah because it's probably going into the pockets of his nazi friends.
BUT they DID Eliminate MY Social Security so that's a Plus!
As someone currently on SSDI and terrified by what's been happening in the last 100 or so days.....that's not funny 😜
What is SSDI?
Social security disability insurance.
I see. Yeah it is scary for sure. The wealthy may very well strip away the pittance that you get to try to survive. 😥 Good luck, comrade!
LOL, LMAO, LOL
Just cutting things for fun, anyone said anything about spending less?
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