On Monday, just one day after the Republican Party staged a Horst Wessel-style memorial for Charlie Kirk in Glendale, Arizona, President Donald Trump signed an executive order designating “antifa” a “domestic terrorist organization.”

The order claims that antifa is a “militarist, anarchist enterprise” that uses “illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide.”

Antifa, as even FBI Director Christopher Wray was forced to admit in a September 2020 congressional hearing, is not an organization but a broad current of opposition to fascism. “Antifa is an ideology, not an organization,” said Wray, who also testified that the bureau had no data showing any lethal violence committed by the organization.

Since antifa as a formal organization does not exist, Trump’s executive order amounts to a blanket authorization to brand political dissent and opposition to his fascist regime as “terrorism.”

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[–] 129 points 1 year ago (33 children)

One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa. Don't forget people, these are the dumbest people in the world running this show.

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  • [–] 210 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I think conflating Antifa with anyone they choose is exactly the objective.

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  • Yup, it’s just a new method to be able to kidnap people off the streets. First it was “they were an immigrant” and then “they looked like an immigrant”. And now it has progressed to “they looked like a domestic enemy of the state”.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago

    I would argue there is no organization known as "antifa". Certainly nothing with structure or presence like tpusa or the proud boys, ya know the organization that terrorized the seat of our nation 5 years ago...

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    [+] 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    In the last 30 years, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) has documented only one killing committed by an alleged antifa supporter. On August 29, 2020, Michael Reinoehl shot and killed fascist Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a member of Patriot Prayer, during a protest in Portland, Oregon. On social media following the killing, Trump encouraged police forces to kill Reinoehl. “Do your job, and do it fast. Everybody knows who this thug is,” Trump said. Reinoehl was murdered by police and federal agents on September 3, 2020.

    While there have been virtually no documented killings committed by alleged antifa members, there have been hundreds of murders and tens of thousands of assaults committed by self-declared fascists, antisemites, far-right militia elements and white supremacists over the last 30 years.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Since that name is now burned, maybe we could start a new organization to fight fascism. And to let the world know that we've reached a point of fascism we can't turn back from, we can call it Turning Point.

    It'd be fun to let them wrestle with calling brand Turning Point a terrorist group.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I'm still going to protest, because I'm not the coward that these fascists are hoping for.

    Getting arrested for holding a sign on public property will be a slam dunk lawsuit.

    Executive Orders cover the federal executive branch. They aren't federal law, they aren't state law & the certainly don't override the Constitution.

    Grow a fucking spine.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ^^^ Look at this guy with his...

    "I'll be protected by the law" attitude....

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    I get what you guys are saying but this idealogy is what makes this a reality. People must continue to protest in large numbers. Only once the numbers dwindle will they sweep in and start charging people with terrorism. There is safety in numbers.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We need to protest even if we’re not protected. We need to protest even if we wind up hanging for it, like Sofie Scholl.

    In a sane world, yeah, it would be a slam-dunk lawsuit, but we’re in uncharted territory now, so who knows if that will remain true. The direction we’re moving in will be so much worse. If we don’t protest now, when we might possibly have some protection, we’ll wind up in a world where our protest will absolutely cost us our life.

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    Shit news source generally (tankie as all hell), but in this specific case the article seems solid.

    Fuck fascism. Fuck this entire administration. Fuck Charlie Kirk and every other nazi like him.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Historically the War Dept was anti fascist.... Which means Trump just declared the U.S. military a crimanl terrorist organization... Time to go arrested those serving in the military. Let's start at the top: The good old commander in chief.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    America used to be antifa.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Is Antifa even an organization, and not just a general term for people who oppose fascism, which should be the majority of the population?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Antifa released a statement on this EO.

    www.antifa.org

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I love that this is their sole response, hosted on a .org domain and that there's nothing else there. No Contact Us page, no upcoming events, nothing to indicate they actually do anything or are even a group. Just that dumbass tweet and BLM support.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Looks like we're all terrorists.

    Everyone arm up.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    They are not even hiding that they are fascist now, wow.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't support fascism. I'm wholly against it. I guess that makes me antifascist.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think I've figured out Trump's Reichstag moment.

    It'll be the White House burning down, because of something going wrong with the ballroom construction. Then he'll get to move the presidential residence to Mar-A-Lardo like he's always wanted, and charge the American taxpayers for renovations and rent forever.

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Its all the smoke screen for the epstein files.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    A-fascist-says-what?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Time to start mailing antifa membership cards to all your favorite republicans.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago*

    Well it's a good thing America has a stellar track record on wars against ideas, e.g. drugs, terror, and Christmas. Let's declare war on Opposition, there's no way to lose that one

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The far right which has taken over ICE and the Federal government under Trump is terrorizing many, many people in this country. JD Vance, Noem, and Trump know it (the cruelty is the point) and yet all cast any criticism of this fact as "terrorist rhetoric." That kind of table-turning projection is foundational in the authoritarian playbook.
    But what I don't understand is - why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?

    Because most people aren't very smart and will only care about something once it directly affects them, which is too late.

    Which is why this is probably going to get a whole lot worse and everyone that is smart should be preparing themselves for that.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am a terrorist now I guess.

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