They're trying to soften the blow by adding new features to each tier, but it's still just to disguise a price hike. More games are coming to the $15 tier, but it still won't be day and date releases. First party games come to the $15 tier "within a year", but that's even excluding Call of Duty.

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[–] 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I used to be a huge advocate for Game Pass. I've played so many games I never would have without, and have saved so much from buying games and not liking them.

30 a month is insane. It now outpaces my buying rate and I can't justify it. The lower tiers just don't do it for me. They finally killed an Xbox Live customer since the 360.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Same here. This year I switched from using the Xbox Live to Game Pass upgrade thing to have it all the time, to paying full price for Game Pass only during the months when I'm actively using it.

    The more expensive they make it, the less I'll pay.

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    [–] 56 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    As with almost all subscription services, the enshittification was inevitable.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Except this one even started shit.

    Call me oldschool, but I like my games available when I want them, not held hostage behind a subscription fee.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's a valid opinion if you want ownership over everything else, fair.

    But to blanket-label Game Pass as "shit" right from the start really isn't fair to all those people for whom it was good value, and gave access to a lot of games they probably wouldn't have been able to justify otherwise.

    Personally it wasn't for me, because I too don't like subscriptions, but for some of my friends it was and I respect that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It was good value in the short term...but anyone capable of forecasting longer than 36 months knew instantly it was an awful deal, even compared to someone who had Playstation Plus and its free games + discounted games since the Sony hack in 2011 and doubly so compared to someone who bought Humble Bundle instead.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    30$/month is hilarious. We all knew they were going to increase the price to justify how much microsoft is spending but at that point you might as well buy your games. I guess it would make sense if you're playing every day one release and are already subscribed to other things that are now included such as fortnite, ubisoft+...

    but 99.9% of gamers are not that obsessed. I have a hard time believing there are many people willing to spend 360$ to play games that will disappear as soon as you stop playing. and I have a hard time believing most standard game pass subscribers will stay subscribed now that recently released games aren't included. That was the only reason I bothered subbing for a month every year or so

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Even if you play every day one release, there's hardly one of those per month. The math used to work out, for a long time, that one month of Game Pass was about 1/4 of the cost of a full priced new release, so going for a subscription made some kind of sense for a certain kind of consumer. This is a hard sell.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I agree. I never used Gamepass as I am not the target audience, but the value proposition made sense to me and I understood why some people paid for it.

    This new pricing makes no sense at all, wouldn't you rather just buy the games you want at that point? $360 a year gets you a lot of games, even accounting for a couple of AAA day one purchases every year.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I have a hard time believing there are many people willing to spend 360$ to play games that will disappear as soon as you stop playing.

    I hardly spend $100 on games a year. Subscribing to Game Pass means I'm overspending by April, and for games I don't even own. Insane proposition.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This was always the plan and it will absolutely get worse. corporations only care about "line go up" they have never and will never give a fuck about the "customer".

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Steam fall sale is happening now. Just picked up a ton of good games for less than 30 :)

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Well I’m glad I’m already not paying them for this anymore, saves me having to cancel my subscription now.

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    We all knew enshittification was coming, but it spooled up faster than expected.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Those billion AI GPUs won't pay for themselves you know.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is this for the PC only version too? I can't tell through all the marketing speak.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    https://www.theverge.com/news/789424/xbox-game-pass-premium-essentials-ultimate-price-increase-changes

    Microsoft is also increasing the price of its PC Game Pass subscription today, moving from $11.99 a month to $16.49 monthly — a nearly 40 percent increase. Microsoft isn’t trying to justify this increase with any added extras for PC players, though.

    “The only change happening for PC Game Pass subscribers is that they won’t be getting Ubisoft Plus Classics, but they’ll be getting about 50 additional Ubisoft titles across PC Game Pass,” Blackwell says. “It will continue to get day one titles.”

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't suppose there's still a cheap trick to buying 3 years of vouchers for relatively cheap and upgrading to Ultimate? That worked great in 2022, but I'm guessing they shut it down.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    CDKeys is definitely not what it use to be for this stuff. Use to get a dirt cheap year of basic, convert with a month of Ultimate n good to go. Or some variation of that. I think those days are long gone now unfortunately

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Canceled my subscription. Fuck you, Microsoft.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    do they inject ads into loading screens and cut scenes?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    FYI - as of this posting sites like cdkeys (now loaded) have some og pricing but it's quickly rising. Buy em if you want to get through games like Outer Worlds 2 before dropping service.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That's it, this is the last Xbox console I'll ever buy

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't think the Burberry strategy is going to work for you guys.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    At one time XBOX fanbase were so desperate to play games like Halo and Gears of War that they were wrapping their dead XBOX 360 in a towel and putting it in an oven to resurrect it. That sounds so insane but it actually happened. Fast forward to now, Microsoft has raised hardware prices twice since May and now raising price of their game pass by 50%. Clearly they're no longer interested in increasing XBOX market share or even retaining it. They've pivoted their strategy to milk their current XBOX fans as much money as they can until the brand is completely dead.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We used to really enjoy game pass as a family. I think the best part is discovering games that we wouldn't have played otherwise. But at some point we stopped using it, so we cancelled. We've gotten 1 or 2 months free or cheap a couple of times now, but I ended up mainly playing one game... Although I suppose I did discover that I liked Avowed more than Expedition 33 😳. If I'd had to buy them, I would have only bought Expedition 33.

    So I think we'll keep going like this... Once a year or so use a cheap trial to get a month and try a lot of games, and use steam sales the rest of the year, and every now and then buy a full price game we really want.

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