But not alcohol or anything else...I wonder what demographic he's trying to target

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[–] 124 points 1 year ago* (49 children)

Second amendment people....... wheeeeeere arrrre youuuuuuu?

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  • [–] 84 points 1 year ago (37 children)

    Trump also passed the bump stock ban in his first term. New federal gun regulations under Obama and Biden combined: 0

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Yep, most of the major Second Amendment restrictions have happened under the Second Amendment presidents. Reagan, Bush, Trump.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Clinton passed the Brady bill and an AW ban so let's not pretend that didn't happen but yeah, Repubs do wtf they want and the NRA bootlickers keep licking boots.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh sure. No one's denying that. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. As fucked as the NRA is, you can at least expect them to act consistently with what's in the best interest of the gun sales lobby. Second Amendment people in general not so much.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    We're going to take the firearms first and then go to court, because that's another system. Because a lot of times by the time you go to court ... it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida; he had a lot of fires [and] they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you're saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.

    -President Donald J Trump

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    It always fascinated me how Americans are like "you can have a thing that shoots fire and death" but the barrel can't be this long or it can't have rail attachments or it can't fire too fast or be a certain color or whatever.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And don't even think about screwing something on the end of the barrel to make it less damaging to your hearing, that is gangster shit that needs heavy regulation

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Bump stocks are just unsafe though.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Unlike the rest of the rifle. Which is perfectly safe.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    The rifle as a tool is just as safe as a log splitter, wood chipper, machete, drone, or the 3000lbs car you hurdle down the highway at 80mph. It’s the operator of those things that can be dangerous.

    Bumpstocks, however, make the weapon discharge unexpectedly and is stupid to own or operate.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I hate that argument. I think we can all agree that while all items you listed can be dangerous... Only one is manufactured to intentionally be a weapon. I haven't seen very many wood chipper attacks on schools lately.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    In fairness to them, a lot of guntube, gunsexual youtubers, are clinically dissecting every aspect of Charlie Kirk's assasination.

    Long story short: Tyler Robinson is almost certainly a patsy, there was almost certainly a shooter up and to Kirk's right, from nearly 90 degrees, thats where the shot came from, it is physically impossible that the damage seen, and reported in the autopsy, was caused by a 30.06 from almost straight in front of him.

    Almost every single detail about the scenario as presented by the FBI is completely impossible to make work all together.

    A lot of guntube is very, very pissed about this, they know the administration is blatantly and obviously lying to them and everyone.

    And no, I am not going to bother arguing the validity of this with any more idiots who know nothing about firearms, these guntubers are correct, I am just pointing out that... there is actually some motion there, from the 2A crowd.

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  • [+] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Fascist regimes always come for guns. Governments that come for guns are not always fascist

    A implies b, but b does not imply a.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Isn't Trump a gun owning felon?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He seems like a real milquetoast kinda removed. I wonder if he's ever fired a gun.

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  • [+] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Uh... It is by either definition of the word "narcotic."

    1. A substance that affects mood and is taken recreationally; often illegal.

    2. a drug that relieves pain or induces sleepiness.

    Marijuana fits both. But so is alcohol.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As per the DEA, "Marijuana is a Schedule I drug with no accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse."

    According to federal law it is.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    They can have my gun, but it comes with bullets.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    While cool of you to say, realistically the most pro 2A amendement nutjobs are awfully quiet with the US descent into fascism since said nutjobs likely voted for the Nazi. This is leopard eating my face

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Never threaten.

    Even if you have the ability to defend yourself against a bully that is motivated by piss and vinegar, that doesn't mean you want a target on your back or for them to see you coming.

    My guess is that many of the people who are willing to resist kinetically aren't going to say anything or threaten anyone.

    One day, a thug kicks down the wrong door and punches his own ticket. The next day the paranoia grips the jackboots and they start passing gun laws in a hurry.

    Lots of cold dead hands after that and no one is willing to volunteer to be first in line to kick off that process.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Historically, this is why police come after you while you're in a car, at work, or otherwise out and about. I'm curious whether, if it ever came to that point, a court would approve seizure* of any records at gun ranges or otherwise to gather data on people who might have guns (being very specific with that 'might have' wording), and then issue warrants to seize said people on the street, and then issue search warrants for the home. It would be a pretty wild reversal of evidence and probable cause. The politicians and cops would try to sell it to the maga fools as being the only way to keep cops safe from antifa terrorists, and I'd bet they would buy it.

    That (judges signing off on such wild bullshit) would be so far into fascist territory that we might as well be at the bottom of fascism lake.

    *This would probably be a grand jury subpoena, which both has lower evidence needs and relies on the reasoning that your transactions/records with a business are not as private as other areas of your life. Cops give these to DAs all the time to gather evidence on a case without the need to go to a judge, so blaming the courts here might be too hasty.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Charleston Heston "From my cold dead hands"

    https://youtu.be/5ju4Gla2odw

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  • Oh a dictator that wants to disarm the population? Tell me more.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Not like there a whole liberal tech community that could do some 3d printing...

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