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[–] 110 points 11 months ago (63 children)
  • [–] 98 points 11 months ago (35 children)

    Came here to say that whoever wrote this is old, like me.

    The switch from 10/2 to 9/3 is because of airbags. If you’re doing it the old way, you’re more likely to have the airbag catch your hand and whack you right in the face with it.

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  • [–] 53 points 11 months ago (18 children)

    10 and 2 was always stupid. When I was young I got an opportunity to go to a racing school and that was one of the first things they talked about. If you mime driving a car, do you put your hands at 10 and 2? No, you'll probably do 9 and 3. Better control, less going hand over hand.

    Also you should push the steering wheel with your outside hand, not pull it. Smoother input.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Aha, hand over hand, now I get to wax poetic about that.

    Hand over hand steering was useful up until maybe the mid 1960s. Later, too, but after about 1967, power steering was becoming more the norm. Cars were far more likely to not have power steering. Instead, they employed lower range steering gear boxes and giant trash can lid steering wheels. In order to make a regular old 90 degree turn, you'd have to crank the wheel over way more than you do on a modern car, and the car was heavier, had steel wheels (more mass to move).

    They continue to teach it today, because if your car loses power and/or shuts off (ICE cars especially, not impossible with EVs) or the power steering otherwise fails while you're moving, you're really going to want to know how to hand over hand steer. It's much more difficult to steer a car with power steering that's dead/broken than a car that just doesn't have power steering at all. Why they still demand it for drivers' tests on every turn, I don't know. You should be able to demonstrate that you can do it, but hand over hand steering on essentially every car today is more clumsy, as long as everything is working properly.

    e:

    If you mime driving a car, do you put your hands at 10 and 2? No, you'll probably do 9 and 3.

    Only if that's the standard you were taught, and the cars that you learned to drive were ones where that made more sense. I mean, just look where Toonces puts his paws.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Hand over hand is better for ensuring you have a grip that can go either direction if something pulls on your wheels suddenly, like in slippery conditions. It isn't necessary to pull it like climbing the rope in gym class with power steering, but awkward hand positions can lead to loss of control.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Yup, exactly this.

    Coached race cars (and bikes) at tracks for years, and amateur raced for more than a decade.

    Try just pushing (not pulling). You have a LOT more range and more comfortable control from 9/3 than 10/2

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    *7 and 5

    Less arm fatigue and safer with air bags.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    With better control the airbags won't go off.

    9:30 and 2:30 is optimal and hands are to the side for an accident.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    With better control the airbags won’t go off.

    You can have the best control in the world and still get rear-ended, T-boned, or otherwise crashed into by someone else. Defensive driving isn't 100% crash-proof and shit happens, my friend. There's a lot of dumb people on the road.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Thought they were teaching 7 and 4 now? Due to airbags I'd heard.

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    [–] 40 points 11 months ago

    Which Bluey episode is this?

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago

    I have so many memories of my dad driving us up to the corner store, beer in hand, to put $5 in the tank and rent us Megaman 4.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Sad that the default of the current world is "can you drive?"

    Mate, I can barely hold a conversation with people Ive worked with for 3+ years. How am I going to communicate via flashing lights to strangers, while driving a 1000kg hunk of metal at 50kph?

    I think I can contribute to society. (I haven't been fired yet. So I must be doing something right) but must I be cut out of social weekend events, or anything after 6pm, JUST because i cant drive?

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    [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Does anyone have the original of the dad doge

    Gonna need it so I can use it as a reaction lol

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Did some digging and found these:

    A zoomed in screenshot from this meme

    a cutout of the doge edit

    and what I assume was the original source image

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    No joke I took my driving test in a random minivan because my dad wrecked his car that I practiced in in a DUI

    No wonder I don't like driving lol

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Learning to drive with grandpa:

    -GP:You know, I miss your grandma.

    -GD:I miss granny too.

    -GP:Let's then close eyes together and imagine her waiting for us at home. Just drive faster sweetheart, so we will not be late for dinner...

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Had the opposite experience tbh. Dad was banned from teaching us driving because he was too strict

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Thumbs up on the wheel, not around it. Again, due to airbags.

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