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    This image was created by /u/kuebic@discuss.tchncs.de for this comment here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21735989. I had encouraged them to post it somewhere, but as far as I can tell, they never did.

    Panel 1: “Installing Windows 20 years ago” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons
    Panel 2: “Installing Linux 20 years ago” screenshot of a busy command line
    Panel 3: “Installing Windows today” screenshot of a busy command line
    Panel 4: “Installing Linux today” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons

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    [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Such a shame that Wayland did away with accessibility APIs which makes switching a hard stop for those of us with disabilities that rely on software that works with these APIs.

    They work with X11, which had consistent APIs, but Wayland leaves it up to each distro to implement their own APIs, if they do at all, fragmenting the ecosystem.

    Hell, even mouse acceleration curves are skuffed now, it really sucks.

    X11 still works fine, despite the FUD.

    Xfce4 is one option, several others exist.

    [–] ity@estradiol.city 3 points 1 day ago

    @douglasg14b @SatyrSack distros do not implement APIs. I'm unsure what "consistent API" means in this context, but X11 is anything but consistent. And you can still just... Use X.org Server. What "X11 APIs" are you missing in specific?

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    [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Linux mint is my distro for now and a good while! I cannot complain (except for a few very minor things).

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Printers are a pain in the ass. But who still uses printers?

    [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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    [–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    My HP printer was plug and play for printing over the network, quite delightful really.

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    [–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (35 children)

    My favorite conspiracy of the moment is that Microsoft intentionally does this New Coke thing and then they will roll out actually good Windows and make all of DA MONY AND KEEL DA LEENOOCKS DIZIZZ. But it's Microsoft, so the long game will go on forever and there will be no pay off. Also - Mint is soooo gooooood to use compared to Win11

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    [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Don't forget to remove the french language pack

    [–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Pourquoi? C'est très utile!

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    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (9 children)

    not very accurate, you can still install Windows graphically, and you could install Linux either on a console or with a GUI both in 2005 and now

    [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

    Yes windows can be installed easily, but it'll require a Microsoft login to do it- this meme is made for people who don't want that.

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    [–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I don't think I ever messed with the Windows 3.1 OS on my family's 486, but from Windows 95 and onwards I've done multiple installs of all the consumer versions of windows and was an avid user of win2k at the time. And for Windows 11 I have only ever installed it in a VM on a Linux machine to test Windows tools that are part of our builds at work.

    I've also installed the last couple versions of Linux Mint a few times on some newer and older PCs. And some other distros in VMs for various reasons.

    ALL of my recent Linux installs have gone far more smoothly and quickly than ANY Windows installs I remember.

    Old windows? Better.

    New Linux? Best!

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Did you install linux at all in the same time in the 90s? SLS? Slackware? Debian? Caldera? RedHat? SuSe? Etc? to have a counterpart reference for that era?.. Contrary to the depiction in the OP image, GNU+Linux was fine and easy to install with a gui installer since 20 years years ago and far longer.

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    [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    My favourite part of the Linux installation process is when it automatically places itself before windows in the grub menu boot order

    Inb4 don’t dual boot: I occasionally need to for work 🫩

    [–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 113 points 3 days ago (17 children)

    Better than Windows just straight up overwriting your Linux boot partition on an update.

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (13 children)

    Getting help with Linux 15-20 years ago: some forum full with slurs telling you to google it

    Getting help with Windows 15-20 years ago: "Do this and this, if that fails look up data backup methods before the reinstall."

    Getting help with Linux now: various Wikis and blogs. The hazard of finding an AI hallucinated blog post is significant, but can be blocked.

    Getting help with Windows now: support forums owned by Microsoft filled with users telling they have the same issue, and AI agents hallucinating solutions.

    [–] kopasu22@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Getting help with Windows now: support forums owned by Microsoft filled with users telling they have the same issue, and AI agents hallucinating solutions.

    I feel this to my core.

    My work PC uses Windows, and sometimes I have to Google something that is acting up, which takes me to these sorts of threads. It's always:

    OP: I'm having trouble with this app, it doesn't recognize my default audio device. I've tried X, Y, and Z, which did not work.

    Jimothy, Certified Windows Expert: Greetings, OP! My name is Jimothy, a Certified Windows Expert and fellow Windows enthusiast! I am sorry to hear about the issues you've been having. But don't worry, I am here to assist. 3 paragraphs later You should try going to the user settings and make sure that "Use default audio device" is checked on. Did this fix your issue?

    OP: I don't see any setting labeled "Use default audio device."

    15 posts follow from other users who are experiencing the same issue, also confirming there is no such setting.

    Jimothy, Certified Windows Expert: Greetings again, OP! I am sorry to hear that did not answer your question. According to the app specifications, use of the default audio device is not a supported feature at this time. If you would like to make a suggestion to include this feature in a future release, you may submit a request through the Microsoft Feedback Portal. I will now close this topic to further replies. Thank you!

    [–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    lol, freaking nailed it. God those are insufferable.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    to be fair, some linux forums still have toxic members, and some others while probably not toxic, are still a bit harsh with people

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    [–] pedz@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Ugh. That reminds me of the Microsoft admin fanboys where I worked, dissing Linux because its all command lines, while saying that MS inventing PowerShell was a stroke of genius making their lives easier.

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I had a coworker, about 30 years old... Who taught computer science at a college prior to us working together... Who said to me "Command line? That stuffs ancient, man."

    Just in case you were thinking about spending money on college tuition to learn computer science...

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    [–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)
    [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Caldera had a GUI installer in 1998…

    Caldera OpenLinux Installer

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    [–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Installing windows for most of that time hasn't been a thing people do. They bought a computer and it had the internets (the picture with the blue e) and the word (the picture with the paper and a W) and that was pretty much them sorted. We're weird for knowing the difference and that's not a bad thing to be.

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    [–] criticon@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    20 years ago it was way easier to install Linux from a boot disk (like ubuntu or suse) than windows from scratch. Sometimes XP didn't have the necessary drives and you'd need to find bootable drivers and load them from a floppy disk

    It was even easier to install OSx86 on my laptop than windows vista from scratch in 2007

    Maybe this is one of those thinking that 20 years ago was the 90s

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    [–] kepix@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    3 out of 4 panels should be a picture where the operating system cant find the proper drivers

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    [–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    I am new to linux Mint and mullvad had an update ready, so i clicked update. It just stayed downloading on 0% for like 5 minutes, so i remembered this ISN'T WINDOWS. So i opened terminal and sudo apt upgrade and Mullvad was updated and new version installed.

    It's weird how windows makes things looks easy, but then they don't work well. Linux makes things look difficult, but it they work well.

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    [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    windows xp WAS NOT 20 years ago

    [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 50 points 3 days ago (16 children)

    24 years ago! Don't forget to schedule your colonoscopy.

    October 25, 2001

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

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