Sodapop is German. It belongs to Krรผger Group, a company with around 5000 employees, so also not a megacorp. :)
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They also have one of the lowest cost options which uses glass bottles. I've been incredibly happy with the Logan. Even if it's not as pretty as something from aarke.
I'm also happy with my Sodapop Logan. I prefer the sliding/rotating door design over the vertically closing design of Sodastream's models.
Unfortunately, it can't fully empty the CO2 cartridges since the device needs a certain minimum pressure to close some sort of valve. If the pressure is too low, the water doesn't really get carbonated and water splashes everywhere.
I'm having trouble discerning from their website who manufactures their cylinders, but they appear identical to the Sodasense ones used by all the American brands (sodastream/ninja thirsti).
Sodasense bottles are manufactured in Wisconsin.
Do you mean the glass bottles or the CO2 cartridges? I think the latter are more or used by all brands of these sparkling water machines in Germany. Seems to be like an industry standard to me.
The CO2 cartridges specifically.
There are adapters that can be used to refill them with co2 bottles purchased from a local supplier though. IMHO a 1 time purchase from a US company that then liberates you from them via enabling local production of your stuff is acceptable, for some it may not be.
What makes you think that all these CO2 cartridges sold and used in Europe are manufactured by a single company in the US? I couldn't find a source on who actually builds them, but found the confirmation that the fitting is a EU-wide norm across all brands selling these 425g CO2 cartridges. The norm is ISO 10297. I don't see why there would be only one company producing these things. And if so, I'd rather expect it in some low cost country rather then the US?
Edit: I found these on AliExpress: https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/0-6L-Sodastream-CO2-Cylinder-Refillable-1600975277101.html
Shanghai Eternal Faith Industry Co., Ltd.
So at least there seems to be not just one manufacturer for these.
It's just speculation based on observation. Literally just the appearance. Thank you for the additional info:)
Mysoda is Finnish. I have used their Woody for years and it works fine. https://mysoda.eu/
Link to https://mysoda.eu/en for those who do not figure out the finnish cookie and setting popovers.
I got a popover with a choice of country and language so I figured the front page works, but thatโs a good additional link
Made in China, though.
Global production chains are weird. Woody and Toby are made in China from wood composite that is made in Finland. But yes, looks like the product itself is indeed put together in China.
We are very happy with our Aarke carbonator. And it's pretty stylish to boot.
The Aarke one looks incredible, although it isn't cheap.
It's strictly for water though (no sweet stuff like cocktails or juice). I think Breville (called Sage in the UK because there's another brand also called Breville) sells another fancy one that does sweet stuff too.
Brita is Geraman and Dafi is Polish. Philips also have those.
Have you tried getting used to plain water? I did a few years ago and now I donโt have to buy water or maintain a device and buy cylinders constantly.
British company Cello make one. I don't know if the carbonator is made in the UK, but the company brags that it's the only company to manufacturer TVs in Britain so I presume they also manufacture the rest of their products here too.
Cello TVs are god awful unfortunately. We used them at work and we had something like 7 returns on 6 TVs. Hopefully their carbonator is better!
@pseudo I've been looking into this as well and came across MySoda (Finnish) but not got any further than browsing yet https://mysoda.eu/