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[–] 82 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Carney: "The old order is not coming back" = provocative

Trump: "I shit on the world and will take over a territory because I didn't get a shiny medal" = Trump discusses international policy

FUCK THE MAINSTREAM PRESS

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The order that he referred to never truly existed. It just was never aimed at fellow Global North nations. Basically what Trump is doing is, for all practical purposes, the real reason why Hitler is (was?) the most hated human in recent history and not, say, Mussolini. Fascists like Mussolini directed their ambitions towards non-Western countries and never threatened fellow Europeans, so they all laughed at his big chin and bombastic movie-inspired poses (no joke, his famous stare and folding arms pose was taken from a 1916 or 1915 film). Hitler was originally supported by many European leaders and both liberals and conservatives. Why? Because as a fascist he fucking hated communism and had no problem massacring and/or imprisoning as many of them as possible. It wasn't until he started being aggressive towards other European nations and bringing about the same colonial mentality home to Europe and treating Europeans the same way they treated Indians and Africans did they take a stand. (BTW, Hitler made no secret of this. He wrote it all in Mein Kampf. But then as now, most people never read the book. Churchill was someone who was confirmed to have read the book before Hitler came to power and was opposed to him from day 1).

    This is basically the same mentality that schoolyard bullies have and their enablers. When they attack the more awkward kids or anyone perceived as being different for any reason they don't care. The moment those bullies start to make anything remotely offensive towards their enablers, however, that is when they lose their shit. My biggest weakness (as an autistic adult) is that I was lead to believe that when you grow up all those behaviors and people will be left behind and they also will change. This... is why it took me until I became middle aged to even BEGIN to have a career or some feeling of being taken seriously. My faith in simply being honest, straightforward, and having faith in others to have some basic curiosity or understanding was my undoing.

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don't think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think what OP may also be asking for are travel benefits. As it stands, EU citizens with an EU passport have extremely powerful benefits when travelling within + outside the EU.

    I just wish we had an inter-ocean train...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I would love it, however we are an exporting economy so having the euro as our currency may hurt but also trade with the EU would be easier.

    The US is not going to be standing as it is by this time next year, maybe sooner.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Adopting the Euro isn't required for being a member of the EU. UK used to be a member of the EU after all, and they never used the Euro.

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Using words just big enough that Trump won't understand what he's saying. Smart.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Reminds me of a Trudeau speech just before he left. He spoke to Canadians and used typical 6th grade english politicians use when adressing very large audiences. Then he adressed Trump directly, looked right into the camera and immediately switched to mono syllabic caveman speech. I swear you could even see a suppressed smirk peek through. I laughed so hard and long I couldn't hear what he actually said to him.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    It's a good speech. He'd be a great prime minister if he weren't so fond of fossil fuels, military spending (as opposed to actual defence,) and authoritarian bullshit in the name of security as exemplified in the infamous "border security" bill.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Can you imagine how it would be if PP had won?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it's only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    I think the border security bill was an initial attempt to placate the Orange Turd... I completely disagree with it anyway, but I am not sure it is part of what Carney would have done under different circumstances

    So far I am not finding myself agreeing with Carney too much but this speech was solid and some of the deals and partnerships coming up in the news have been pretty positive (at least with the info available)... so there is hope?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Carney's reliance on fossil fuels does stick out as somewhat against his own book, Values. This is all speculation, but my theory for the reliance on fossil fuels is that it has a history of econimcally strengthening nations (at least if we ignore pollution), and has historically proven to be a valuable and desired resource globally and domestically. Given he is navigating the biggest economic shift Canada has seen in decades, fossil fuels look like a safe, but not neccesarily the right choice.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, exactly. Actions speak louder than words, of course, and his actions around fossil fuels feel very counter to his published words, but he has also said that we are at economic war now, and war time decisions need to be much more pragmatic than peace time ones.

    He said it all today: Countries that cannot feed themselves, fuel themselves, or defend themselves are now supremely vulnerable. We can feed ourselves, and we can fuel ourselves, and we can fuel and feed others. We need to offer that so that they will defend us, as we build up the means to defend ourselves.

    Shaking off being a US vassal state is going to get a little messy.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Hopefully Macron hears this, given the leaked texts to Trump today.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    The texts:

    “My friend, We are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you are doing on Greenland."

    “Let us try to build great things, i can set up a g7 meeting after Davos in Paris on thursday afternoon. I can invite the ukrainians, the danish, the syrians and the russians in the margins. let us have a dinner together in Paris together on thursday before you go back to the us. Emmanuel.”

    The assumption is that he leaked them in response to an earlier quote from Macron:

    "We do prefer respect to bullies. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality."

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

    Also NATO's sec:

    Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I doubt these are actually text messages sent to him from Macron, but possibly messages passed from Macron to a Trump lacky and then reinterpreted in a way Trump can read. No clue about SecGen.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Is Carney perfect? No. Is he the best PM we have had, and the perfect man for this situation? Yes.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    I watched a few interviews with Carney throughout the election to get an idea of who he is and the policies he might support. One detail that really stuck out to me is he was a goaltender when he played hockey. Canada has a big mean offensive oaf taking shots at it, and Canada elects a goalie as a response.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We have the most eloquent, educated, kick ass leader! I shudder to think what PP would be doing under these circumstances. He’d probably be peeing his pants...

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    [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    He didn’t mention tech …tech is the most dangerous too the US has for subjugation right now. Any deal with any companies tied to musk, Thiel or Ellison are Bad Bad. I really don’t understand why Carney would join Trump and Netanyahu’s “peace board” that’s glaringly corrupt

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    He did... but just one sentence: "And on AI, we’re co-operating with like-minded democracies to ensure that we won’t ultimately be forced to choose between hegemons and hyperscalers."

    And Carney was only invited to be on the board, but it seems we're not going to be paying the billion dollars Trump is demanding. So it doesn't seem likely that's going to happen.

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