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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We are now at a time where US blocks China services in order to protect their companies

Just like many US services are banned in China in Order to protect their companies

So, I hope no surprise..

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Its or their for countries?

Edit: I have chosen their

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

DeepSeek does the same things that OpenAI does, but it's a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait until they hear what data Instagram/Meta collects during use!

But they're a US company so it's ok.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data? Selling it? If you’re not a Chinese National, at least you don’t fall under their jurisdiction.

If you’re a U.S. citizen, with all the tech oligarchs cozying up to the current administration, I’d be a lot more concerned with Facebook/Twitter/Etc collecting your data.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The CCP is significantly more oppressive, gives zero shits about human rights or trademarks or really anyone at all. The US at least pretends to care.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bro you can stop that narrative. The truth is out now.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The truth is out now.

What truth? Who talks like this and thinks it means something?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For the past week the people of China and the United States, as well as other countries have been comparing notes. Debunking propaganda on both sides. Realizing that much of what we've all been told for years/decades, has been lies.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm ootl. What debunks have come out?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For starters, that the Uyghur genocide is yet another piece of atrocity propaganda from the US. We know what a genocide looks like and how it's impossible to hide in the modern world, as Gaza showed.

Blurry satellite pictures of buildings and a German fascist swearing it for ten pages (financed by Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin) isn't proof.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it's fake why is it censored in Chinese apps and websites?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because there are some functional governments in the world that don't allow US misinformation to spread without challenge.

They also suppress Falun Gong, are you telling me that's in and of itself proof that their cultist shit is one hundred percent true? If so tell me so I can laugh my ass off

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So according to you it's the job of a functional government to select which topics are missinformation and can be seen or not by it's citizens?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whose job would it be, corporations? Do you think the public was well served by anti-masker, anti-vax conspiracies being allowed to run rampant? Has the US benefitted from QAnon and Pizzagate being completely unopposed and sometimes boosted by social media?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago

How about no censorship? And you get to use your brain to decide. I like to live in a country where the government doesn't preselect which topics I have access to but to each his own, you can go live in the CCP or North Korea then.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

but it’s a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

I love that people think this is a solid own. Lest we forget Hong Kong, or an impending hot war in Taiwan or building out extradition systems with an expanding network of countries to forcibly repatriate and torture dissidents and human rights lawyers.

You used to not have to explain why authoritarianism was bad.

Edit: I would love to know the Pro side of what happened in Hong Kong, or the forced extradition regime, since evidently I'm clearly in the wrong in thinking those were bad. What am I missing?

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

It used to not be necessary because democracies used to have moral authority but since the revelations of Manning and Snowden non-Americans see no difference between giving our data to the USA or to China or any other. We also know from the reaction to the war in Ukraine and Gaza that human rights claims are only sometimes used.

[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

No, this is just propaganda

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

as opposed to OpenAI which also stores keystrokes and then sells them to anyone who'd pay?

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

When I read DeepSeek's privacy policy, I was creeped out by the invasiveness of the keystrokes thing. Then I realised that ChatGPT is just as creepy, but less upfront about it, and DeepSeek's relative transparencyn caused me to see them in a more favourable light

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is Whataboutism and you are clearly a Wumao agent sent here to destroy democracy.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I don't need to... Muricans took care of destroying democracy all on their own

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This "China's AI is taking your data and that's bad" is shockingly similar to "TikTok is taking your data and that's bad". Lots of US counterparts do the same thing, but I don't see (as much) media coverage about that.

Don Draper: "no no no, everyone else's cigarettes are dangerous. Lucky Strikes are... toasted."

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

The way I think of it is, I don't live in China, so regardless of my objections to their values or human rights abuses, why would CCP or an affiliated company care about me or ruin my life on the basis of or by abusing my data? A big part of why I care about privacy is I don't want to be filtering my every thought through consideration of whether the powers that be would approve, and US companies are way more relevant to that.