The last round of conscription was meet with uncharacteristically loud pushback from the russian public so pushing ahead with even more is interesting. Is the kremlin that confident in the effect of it's propaganda? or is it just that desperate?
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The pushback was for the mobilisation, while this is a start of a routine conscription event, these happen twice every year
The Kremlin is confident that they will kill as many protesters as will be required to destroy any uprising.
Maybe I should just Google it but... do you remember any specific cases of this pushback?
The amount of Russians leaving the country to avoid conscription was very high. You can't really hide that. There are stories of men being kept hidden to avoid the press gangs. But all of that is probably par for the course considering the amount of soldiers dying on foreign soil.
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effect of its* propaganda
Both sides have resorted impressment to refill their ranks, regardless of public pushback men can still get bagged into a van on the street and sent to the front lines.
Vlad should call his MAGA supporters to join his cause and it will fulfill their need for violence.
Also they would take heavy casualties. Use them as pure cannon fodder.
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You see Ukranians have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit, and shut down.
As we all know, repeatedly drafting several divisions worth of men is a sign you're winning the war...
Territorially? Yes, Russia is winning. But politically, economically and socially? Russia already lost. The deaths of thousands of soldiers in the face of Russia's demographic crisis will result fewer labour force, which means lower tax revenue. The Russian economy is in war footing and this is already causing inflation because of heightened government expenditure, and businesses struggling to pay the ever increasing wage demands of civilians at home, who replaced the jobs that would have been filled instead by soldiers from the front. With secondary sanctions, even Chinese banks are reluctant to lend to Russia. The future generations of Russians will be paying for the economic and social consequences of the war in Ukraine. In essence, Russia may be winning territorially, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory with generational consequences.
They still only have 20 percent of the country. After years. At this rate they will run out of people before Ukraine runs out of territory.
You are right and coming out of that war footing when all the bill are due? Diaster
Politicians never fight their wars. Conscription is slavery.
The ruling class never fights their wars, either.
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Russia isn't going to have any young men left.
Might finally play against some non russian cs2 mic spammers
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Conscripting babies.
Are they going to be equipped like the Russian soldiers in late WWII? One soldier gets a rifle, the other gets five bullets, and both get helmets the thickness of tin cans.
That is ww1. Not world war 2. The whole 'wait for your comrade to die and take his weapons' did not happen during ww2. It did happen in ww1.
Russian soldiers in late WW2 were typically very well equipped, as were most soldiers by that stage in the war (even German soldiers were pretty decently equipped late war, though mostly due to having almost no soldiers left to equip).
Late summer 1941 and even at points during Stalingrad, sure there were definitely times when soviet soldiers were being thrown into battle massively underequipped, but this was the exception rather than the rule.
By 1944 (even by 1943) the Red Army was more mechanised than the Wehrmacht and was better at Blitzkrieg than the Wehr ever were.
Lend lease really helped with mechanization. The jeeps and trucks they had were indispensable for the war effort. We often talk about guns and bombs, but people don't realize how important transportation and heavy machinery is.
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Love this for the Russians. Maybe they’ll wake up and take this boot off their necks one day
And it’s 1 2 3 what are we fighting for don't ask me I don’t give a damn next stop is Zaporizhzhia
That’s a lot of meat for the grinder
How many will be oligarchs sons?
Or even any from large cities?
Clearly showing what he really thinks of Trump's bullshit "peace" plan.
Rest in peace you poor bastards. Forced to fight a rich mans war... for nothing.
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Oh, look. Russian "brain drain" heading to Russias southern borders.
More like blood drain, their brains are probably in atrophy.
Most of the brains already left for other countries
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This is America's future. Conscription is in Project 2025 and make no mistakes about it. The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.
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Where's Trump and his "young, brave men"? You know, that speech. The one aimed at Zelensky stating he should just stop the war and stop being desperate by conscripting more people for the defense effort?
Eh, must have left it in the same place he left the "Zelensky is a dictator" comment after he was asked if Putin was also a dictator.
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Ukraine is Russia’s Vietnam.
Ukraine is about nearly 10x Vietnam at this point.
Hell, Russia experienced a Vietnam level of loss in about 2 months during the Avdiivka offensive.
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