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On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.
On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass
There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.
Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.
Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.
It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.
Trump's Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I'm pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again
I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.
and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it
If I had that much money I know I would have a "Hail Mary" boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.
That might be Ghislaine's job.
Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.
Trump pulls off his face, gasp it was Epstein all along
Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with 'his grandmother' rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?
Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don't play ball they'll make sure it's painful?
The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn't figure it out.
"Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies."
classic
Reminder that the Sarah Palin hacker was caught because they included the web proxy url in their screenshots they shared.
Edit: it was 16 years ago so here's the Wikipedia article for additional context.
I backtraced it!
FBI is more interested in who leaked epstein's death on 4chan than who he raped children with
They know who he raped children with, that's their blackmail cache.
They don't know who the weak link in the chain is; that's going to end up being blackmail against them.
The user also provided some of the earliest unproven conspiracy theories about Epstein's death. In one post, which was later deleted but provided to the FBI in response to the subpoena, the user said someone may have swapped out Epstein's body because of a mysterious van seen the previous night, DOJ records show. "You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out," the anonymous poster said.
Damn
Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec
Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago
My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too
Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me
There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think.
The gaming account was someone who changed its username and then got banned.
Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel
I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s association with shit.
What are the odds this is just more of that? They may speak on Epstein’s death before it’s reported for credibility, then misuse that credibility to obfuscate the truth further. The FBI could have been in the dark, hence their investigation, but they could have also been steered away from making any conclusions on the matter.
Q was probably Steve Bannon working through Ron Watkins who was a useful idiot proxy. The point was to make talking about what Epstein and the gang were actually doing sound like crazy talk.
Remember: A way to poison the truth is to package it with 9 lies, and a way to hide a lie is to package it with 9 truths.
Why do you think Elmo bought Twitter...
The longer this goes on the weirder it gets.
A death reported before it happened?
Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld?
Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents?
I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged.
Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assume it's all ai, but.... I don't know what to think anymore. Trump and his friends are just so evil. All I can think about is what the nazi concentration camp people did. torture twins, make lampshades out of human skin.
I grew up in a rural town where nothing ever happened and nobody locked their door. This is all so wrong.
I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories
I totally am with you. However, there is definitely quite a range in the theories. And it's probably a bit naive to always fall for the narratives handed down by suspect elites on any given matter, some of them better known as "coincidence theories".
Some "theories" later turned out to be true. It's quite a distance between the findings of the Church Committee, for example, or what came out of Iran/Contra, or the Pentagon Papers, or the Panama Papers, as contrasted with rando nonsense like "Nazis built bases on the moon".
Unfortunately, it's hard to thread that needle I guess. People jump from the findings on Tuskagee and go feet-first into assuming Fauci did something illegal in Wuhan and/or that Covid was fake/"just a flu" and this was all a trial run/experiment to institute the New World Order and/or that mRNA vaccines were going to kill you or whatever...I mean, so many people just went buck wild during Covid.
Lol the FBI is worried that people might leak shit they're doing, so they gotta scare off Anonymous.
In https://lemmy.world/c/Epsteinfiles from 17 days ago:
https://lemmy.world/post/42921222?scrollToComments=true
There were two IP's associated with these comments.
107.77.223.177
and
172.58.139.162
One IP was responsible for all of the comments regarding medical information (which can be confirmed in part by the autopsy, also available unredacted (mostly) in the files(.
I tried to follow up on the FBI effort to get the cell data for both of these. As far as I can tell, the rPtND1Si post resolved to a new jersey IP (this is the AT&T customer), and the second resolved to a sprint customer (swam8WIF). If you look up the second IP, it resolved to the Chicago area (the sprint customer). The sprint response to the FBI record request stated that their system used "dynamic IP". Its not clear to me the FBI followed up on the sprint customer any further. My read was they couldnt get a location from that IP because of sprints internal system.
See here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00133349.pdf for the original data.
At 8:16 a.m. on August 10, 2019, an anonymous 4Chan user posted...
It beat ABC News journalist Aaron Katersky's post about Epstein's death on Twitter, now known as X, by 38 minutes
Is that in any way surprising? Someone with insider knowledge posted about it before a journalist was informed?
In the Wikipedia article about his death they said that he was rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead at 6:39 AM. More than 90 minutes before even this post on 4Chan, he'd already been taken out of his cell, rushed to an ambulance, driven across NY, taken to a hospital, rushed into the emergency room, and pronounced dead. There were so many opportunities for someone to notice that and post it somewhere.
In a sense, this means you pretty much clear the jail guards, ambulance drivers and emergency room doctors, nurses, orderlies, etc. of suspicion. Can you imagine that they saw a dead Epstein, but sat on that for 90 minutes before posting it to 4Chan?
What's surprising here isn't that it was posted first to some forum used by random Internet chuds. That's what you'd expect. What's surprising is that they were competent enough to keep the news quiet for nearly 2 hours.
Elon and his cohorts have been involved in 4chan since it was a cultural phenomenon back in the day. Not because he had some skin in the game, but because it probably felt good to know and disseminate information before the rest of the 4channers knew it. That boy is all about clout before anything else.
whenever there is breaking news, I always pop over to 4chan. They have videos, images, witnesses, and statements before any mainstream media.
We have it on record that Epstein and Bannon were frequenting 4chan, so I can only assume it was someone from his circles
And certain accounts in certain places known to be Epstein accounts are mysteriously active...